#1: Steering Rack? :S Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:31 am ---- Hi Guys,
Have recently been getting a few oil splodges on my driveway, had a quick look at work today without taking the wheel off and it looks like there is what i thought was oil all over the subframe arm. I wiped it off thinking it was oil but it doesn't smell like oil and is a brown'ish colour... :S Could this is power steering fluid? I haven't noticed any differnece in the power steering other than in the mornings when i come out of my estate there is a tight left hand turn, i hear a loud whine noise, but only happens once :S
Any help much appreciated.
Cheers Austin
#2: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:07 am ---- Power steering oil should be red, never known it to go brown even after being in a car for years.
The only fluid I can think goes brown is coolant, but even then it's more of an orangey rusty colour
#3: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:15 am ---- it could have possibly been a dark red then, cloth was covered in loads of crap tbh. Could my steering rack be leaking?
#4: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:20 am ---- My standard PAS oil was a dark colour. Not red.
#5: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:07 pm ---- Easiest way to check is to check your oil and water levels, if you suspect the power steering then check the pump. My oil is a dark colour, I thought it was either red or blue.
#6: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:35 pm ---- Oil and water levels are fine, checked them a week ago. It's deffo not oil, doesn't smell like oil, It's like a dark red colour. If the rack is leaking, can I change seals or is it a new steering rack? And how easy is it to change?
#7: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:47 pm ---- Check the PAS pressure sensor (blue) with the 2 wires going to it.
#1 cause for leak in the PAS system, followd by pump itself.
#8: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: tommy89, Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:59 pm ---- Oily patches on my driveway (under the front passenger wheel assembly) were the result of a leaky drive shaft seal - the car has had two new drive shafts but they didnt do the seals at the same time (odd)
The fluid that came out of these smelt rather strong - Not a peugeot expert or anything - just sounds similar to mine
#9: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: eddie206, Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:02 pm ---- The squeel you hear,if the fan belt is checked and tightened(should have no more or no less then a small pennys size (12mm)play up or down...thats tight but not overtight)is the power steering pump probably on its way out..
..if the fluid has been in for a long time it will smell more like gearbox oil than any other oil,and its probly just a case of having a really good luck where the leak originates...
Power steering oil should be red, never known it to go brown even after being in a car for years.
The only fluid I can think goes brown is coolant, but even then it's more of an orangey rusty colour
Peugeot 206 Power steering oil is yellow color
But back to the problem you have,check your power steering oil level,and make sure it's on the right level when cold,and when hot.
#11: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:47 pm ---- I'd just get the car up on some ramps and see where it's coming from.
#12: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:26 am ---- ok thanks guys, any idea where i check the level of power steering fluid? I know where the cap is but can't see a way of checking the level. :S
#13: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:49 am ---- Should be 3 marks on the stick inside the cap. Min, Cold and Hot.
#14: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:20 pm ---- Cold and hot? Am I missing something here? :S why would it have cold and hot marks?
Posted this up a few weeks ago for someone else who was struggling with the level
#17: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:03 pm ---- cheers macca... Have checked the level and it was completely bone dry! so that would explain the whine and confirm i definitely have a leak somewhere!
Had a good look around the steering rack area tonight and it looks like the source of the leak is from the 2 pipes at the back of the rack. Had a quick look online and seems a common problem for it to leak from the seals. But question is, can i just replace the seals or is it a whole new rack?
Also what are peoples thoughts on trying a 'power steering stop leak'? Think this is simuliar to 'rad weld'
probably not a permanent fix but if it solves it for a year or so i'll be happy lol
Any advice welcome guys...
Thanks Austin
#18: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: eddie206, Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:39 pm ---- This is the first ive seen of this sealer type for power steerin???but its certainly sumthing i would try if i needed it because of a leak...just be sure to follow the instructions right and top your level back up properly then run car for fifteen mins then top up again if needed...its best to check it tho.
#19: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:12 am ---- Alright guys, I have tried to use steering fluid called 'slick50' this seems to have slowed down the leak but still getting spots on my drive. Looks like i'm going to have to replace these o-rings. They look a nightmare to get to without lowering the subframe.. :/ is there a write up anywhere on how best to do this?
Thanks
Austin
#20: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: pugot206, Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:55 am ---- Can't find much on steering racks will probably have to get a Haynes as i have a mot advisory on steering rack.
The power steering fluid is red in my resevoir and so is the spec.top up bottle i bought when replacing leaky sensor switch.
#21: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:26 pm ---- They are easy to get to. Jack the car fully up at the front and go in with one hand from drivers side and the other from the back. If you havent f****d the rack yet with that stupid gunk stuff I recommend you flush it out as soon as! Its a get me home thing, nothing more
#22: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:43 pm ----
Addaz wrote:
If you havent f****d the rack yet with that stupid gunk stuff I recommend you flush it out as soon as! Its a get me home thing, nothing more
That stuff just swells the hydraulic rubber seals as a temporary bodge, its NOT a long term fix.
#23: Re: Steering Rack? :S Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:02 pm ---- Fluid hot it expands so has a higher mark on dipstick.
Fluid cold so hasn't expanded so lower mark on dipstick.
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