#1: What can be stripped out? Author: meady, Location: basingstokePosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:35 am ---- Looking to strip out the interior of my car to turn it into a track car, but at the same time I wish to keep it road legal. Does anyone know exactly what can be stripped out (literally to the bare minimum) or know where to find out. Cheers
#2: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: benjsy, Location: Northern IrelandPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:38 am ---- id love to do the same my guess is everything but from the front seats forward, im no expert though so don't quote me on it
#3: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: iainlovatt, Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:06 am ---- best bet would be to read the MOT guidelines so that you know what they test for!
I also imagine off the top off my head you would need to send your V5 off to convert it from being 5 seats to 2 seats!
#4: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: meady, Location: basingstokePosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:39 am ---- I did trying reading through some mot stuff online, but I couldn't find anything. That's most likely because I don't like reading though
#5: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:46 am ---- Basically as benjsy says. Anything from the B post should stay.
You could change the seats and seatbelts to buckets and harnesses. You'll need the front airbags for the MOT and also the dials/warning lights.
#6: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:13 pm ---- Airbags on a track car could be fun
#7: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: DSWR, Location: SolihullPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:17 pm ----
meady wrote:
Looking to strip out the interior of my car to turn it into a track car, but at the same time I wish to keep it road legal. Does anyone know exactly what can be stripped out (literally to the bare minimum) or know where to find out. Cheers
I hope this gives you some ideas... I drove like this for about a week (obviously, I re-added the driver side door). You can also have bucket seats and a roll cage (if you tell your insurance company, obviously). You couldn't get any emptier on the inside than this unless you start stripping the dash, etc. The dash is part of the safety equipment, though. So I recommend keeping all that together if you want to keep to the road. Possibly remove the heaters, radio, etc.
If you really want to kill weight that brown plastic sheeting will also come up and you can remove the leather from the gear knob and the plastic coating from the handbrake like on mine. Would recommend getting a lightweight steering wheel too.
Note: had my MOT LIKE THIS... Passed! They'd of send if it weren't legal!
#8: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: eddie206, Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:33 pm ---- It used to be for MOT that if its on it it had to work..so that said if it isnt on it it doesnt have to work...just common sense with an eye on safety and u cant go far wrong..
I see above the door cards are still in here and if u took those out u could lose the lecy windows and the central locking to lose more valuable weight and even strip the windows(not the front screen tho)and replace them with lightweight plastic ones..
Swap the mirrors too.
#9: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: SinfulDesignCom, Location: Ashford, KentPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:18 pm ----
macca1411 wrote:
Basically as benjsy says. Anything from the B post should stay.
You could change the seats and seatbelts to buckets and harnesses. You'll need the front airbags for the MOT and also the dials/warning lights.
No you don't!
Airbags are not required if the car is correctly prepared for rally. Look at special notice from VOSA 03-2013. Been through this myself already this year.
Airbags on a track/rally car will do nothing whatsoever if you have the correct seat/harness installed. Nice that VOSA finally realise this...
#10: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: DanT, Location: Torbay, EnglandPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:46 am ---- Some of the information in here is completely innacurate! there's an awful lot you can strip from the interior of the car!
#11: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:06 am ---- Not that I've really looked into it, but the dash might not even be needed. As long as you can still demist the screen, but even that may not be a 100% requirement.
#12: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: usher, Location: northallertonPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:27 am ---- Rear wiper carpets and underlay radio speakers rear seat belts rear seats will see you near to 60kg removed
#13: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: SinfulDesignCom, Location: Ashford, KentPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:31 am ----
usher wrote:
Rear wiper carpets and underlay radio speakers rear seat belts rear seats will see you near to 60kg removed
You need to keep the rear left speaker for MOT...
#14: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:15 pm ----
SinfulDesignCom wrote:
usher wrote:
Rear wiper carpets and underlay radio speakers rear seat belts rear seats will see you near to 60kg removed
You need to keep the rear left speaker for MOT...
#15: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: meady, Location: basingstokePosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:34 pm ----
SinfulDesignCom wrote:
usher wrote:
Rear wiper carpets and underlay radio speakers rear seat belts rear seats will see you near to 60kg removed
You need to keep the rear left speaker for MOT...
Well that sucks, it had every speaker but the rear left one when I bought it
#16: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:39 pm ---- Plenty of wiring you could loose out the cabin loom.
#17: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: usher, Location: northallertonPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:11 pm ---- I have started with the wiring it's a long process as i don't know where they lead so having to trace them then cut
#18: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: DSWR, Location: SolihullPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:14 am ---- Since the stripping of my car. We also had all the side panels off, including the door cards. Took the roof lining away and also the glovebox. I don't think there's much more to remove after that as the rest is holding airbags, etc. You don't need a passenger side one to pass MOT so you could take the one out of your glovebox if you seriously want weight gone. Just don't tell your passengers what you done and they "may" still want to cruise with you, lol.
#19: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: SinfulDesignCom, Location: Ashford, KentPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:40 am ---- You don't need ANY airbags for the MOT...!!!
If it is correctly kitted out, roll cage, bucket seats, harnesses etc, it is tested as a "rally car", thus air bags are not a requirement.
But even if it isn't, a malfunctioning SRS warning light is now an advisory, NOT a failure. So take your airbags out, take the SRS lamp out, or disable it, and you have your MOT. It is only a failure if the SRS lamp illuminates during test, or does not come on and then go out after ignition. But if it doesn't work at all... it is still an advisory. Go figure...!
I have spent the last 2 months researching this people, trust me... or call VOSA yourselves!!
#20: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: DSWR, Location: SolihullPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:42 am ----
Harry wrote:
Not that I've really looked into it, but the dash might not even be needed. As long as you can still demist the screen, but even that may not be a 100% requirement.
Dash can come out. I don't think you even need a speedo, etc. If you're not speeding, you're safe. Airbags aren't required but they're a nice thing to have.
#21: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: SinfulDesignCom, Location: Ashford, KentPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:21 am ---- Why is an airbag a nice thing to have if you have harnesses?? You like chemical burns to your arms and face?
#22: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: DSWR, Location: SolihullPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:34 am ----
SinfulDesignCom wrote:
Why is an airbag a nice thing to have if you have harnesses?? You like chemical burns to your arms and face?
Love them. Can't beat it. Nah, I'd feel safer with a big bag exploding in my face (oh dear) than trusting cheap harnesses... I'd want them both. Unless, you do buy proper. Don't buy a set for like £100, they ain't getting you far. At least change the harnesses and have a cheap seat.
#23: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:38 am ---- It may pass an MOT, but if you get pulled with no speedo you can easily be 'done' for it.
I've been head on into a tree with harnesses (no I wasn't driving) and trust me you don't want airbags, that would be like someone punching you in the face in addition. The harnesses do their job and keep you in the seat absolutely fine. Last edited by Harry on Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:58 am; edited 1 time in total
#24: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: SinfulDesignCom, Location: Ashford, KentPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:42 am ----
#25: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: DSWR, Location: SolihullPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:59 am ----
Harry wrote:
It may past an MOT, but if you get pulled with no speedo you can easily be 'done' for it.
I've been head on into a tree with harnesses (no I wasn't driving) and trust me you don't want airbags, that would be like someone punching you in the face in addition. The harnesses do their job and keep you in the seat absolutely fine.
From past experiences. I've had friends on race tracks injure himself from cheap harnesses not doing their job right. You're correct that a harness is better than some airbags but if the harness fails live the kind I've seen. You'll be thankful something stopped you going out the window. Just saying that it's worth investing into some very good stuff instead of going for the cheap stuff. I've never had an airbag in my face so I wouldn't know what it feels like. Don't really want to find out, lol.
#26: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: SinfulDesignCom, Location: Ashford, KentPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:55 pm ---- If you buy cheap harnesses, you deserve to go out the window....
#27: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:59 pm ---- If I wanted harnesses in a car then id be looking at FIA approved ones.
#28: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:16 pm ---- Any half decent ones should be approved anyway, why compromise on something so important?
#29: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: eddie206, Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:21 pm ---- Its actualy dangetous having airbags in a rally car..pull them out because it only takes a rough corner or hard landing and the bloody bags can go off right then running the risk of sending you off the road into a tree or such while your driving at 70mph or so...1rally car=0 airbags...makes sense..
And who even suggested fitting a cheap harness in the first place??an obvious expense worth spending..
#30: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:28 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
SinfulDesignCom wrote:
usher wrote:
Rear wiper carpets and underlay radio speakers rear seat belts rear seats will see you near to 60kg removed
You need to keep the rear left speaker for MOT...
Can someone xplain as I don't get it?
#31: Re: What can be stripped out? Author: eddie206, Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:03 pm ---- British humour man...
Its funny because the rear speaker is just the strange sort of thing that makers might say is needed to keep but actualy the speaker is not important...like a knowledgable person telling a novice this speaker must stay just to pull there leg...when infact its the first thing to go really..
IMPORTANT LESSON...NEVER TRY TO EXPLAIN JOKES..IF YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN THEN THEYVE MISSED THE POINT ENTIRELY...IVE TRIED TO EXPLAIN HERE BUT JOKES ARE MULTILEVELED AND HARD TO EXPLAIN..
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