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#1: mot disaster yesterday.. Author: peugeotgti PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:30 am
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Yeah my 2002 137 gti failed badly yesterday so im really looking for any advice to help make these repairs as easy and as cheap as possible...all advice and comments welcomed..
So the fails are..
Antiroll bar ball joint n/side.
Brake lights flashing with indicators.
4 different brake pipes to renew.
Small rust patch to weld on sill.
Emmisions out....major headache..advice much appreciated here.
Headlites off aim.both of..
And advisorys on...
1tyre tread is low.
1 further brake pipe nearly shot.
It could have been worse i suppose but once ive done the brake pipes and sorted the emmisions(help here pleeez)its sort of easy enuf but any advice on saving money or time. or to help sort emmisions or anything that might help is really. genuinely welcomed here as my budget is limited and the car is vital...
Thankyou in advance guys.....cheers

#2: Re: mot disaster yesterday.. Author: lukepug19, Location: Oxfordshire PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:30 am
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emissions could be anything from a failed cat to a faulty lamda sensor which could be telling it to over fuel causing bad emissions

#3: Re: mot disaster yesterday.. Author: peugeotgti PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:33 am
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Yeah thats my main headache right now...if it helps im getting an antipillution fault on screen and an orange engine light on dash..
Is it worth servicing it in hope it will pass or is it best to get the codes read before spending money??

#4: emmisions need to fall. Author: peugeotgti PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:38 am
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Has anyone living near Darlington area got a code reader or preferably pug planet 2000 as my 137 gti has just failed mot on emmisions and im needing advice to get them down and better im needing codes reading to pinpoint the fault??
All emmision lowering advice welcomed...thanks.

#5: Re: mot disaster yesterday.. Author: iainlovatt PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:39 am
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Sounds like the car is in need of a major service. The brake light and indicator is down to an earth cable, trace the loom to the earth point clean it up and it should be fine,

#6: Re: emmisions need to fall. Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:00 am
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Tell us what emissions need to reduce and we'll tell you what's wrong.

#7: Re: mot disaster yesterday.. Author: Timon2210, Location: Palestine PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:20 pm
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have codes read,it's much better than guessing,specially for the antipillution fault,as many things can cause this fault,but other fails is something u need to repair as it's for your safety and others safety Smile

#8: Re: emmisions need to fall. Author: Timon2210, Location: Palestine PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:23 pm
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have faults read would be better,specially if you have the EML light on

#9: Re: mot disaster yesterday.. Author: peugeotgti PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:54 pm
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Cheers guys..
Earth fault will check it out tomorrow.
emmisions..i am servicing the car..air filter in and throttle body cleaned as in the HOW TO for it..will refit carb tomorrow..
oil filter bought.£4.20
susspension antiroll bar ball joint bought.£9.85
air filter bougjt.£8.95
Carb cleaner bought.£2.90
sump plug and washer bought.£3.80
Dae combustion system conditioner bougjt.£9.25(secret weapon for emmisions fault..taxi drivers use it and its not for sale to the general public...as it says on tin so must be good.)
These measures for emmisions should sort it well enuf..
ball joint is easy..
brake pipes should be easy(mate down the road just happens to have spare brake piping and my local rent a ramp has flaring tools so easy enuf thete..
That just leaves the plate to weld or improvise so should easily reach retest deadline without too much hassle..
Just save to tax it and all is well....and thanks for help dudes and add anything else if it might help..thanks much.

#10: Re: emmisions need to fall. Author: peugeotgti PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:11 pm
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Emissions read as on sheet...
engine oil temp. Ok
fast idle test. Failed
Engine speed1950-3050 manual check pass
CO:<=0.300% 2.258% FAIL
HC:<=200PPM. 220PPM. FAIL
LAMBDA: 0.970-1.030. 0.944. FAIL
SECOND FAST IDLE TEST. FAILED
EMGINE SPEED: 1950-3050RPM. MANUAL CHECK. PASS
CO: <=0.300% 3.064% FAIL
HC: <=200PPM. 242PPM. FAIL
LAMBDA: 0.970-1.030. 0.910. FAIL
NATURAL IDLE TEST. FAILED
ENGINE SPEED: 550-850RPM. MANUAL CHECK. PASS
CO:<=0.500% 0.748% FAIL

OVERALL RESULT. EXJAUST EMMISIONS TEST. FAILED..
IF THIS SHOWS YOU ANYTHING OR IS ENOUGH TO TELL WHATS UP THEN PLEASE ADD YOUR PROGNOSIS AND HOW LIKELY TO CERTAIN YOU ARE ABOUT THE FAULTS DIAGNOSIS.....CHEERS FELLAS.

#11: Re: mot disaster yesterday.. Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:38 pm
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You have an anti pollution fault, what do you expect with the emissions?! Of course it was going to fail!

The brake lines, really?! Ive never come across corroded lines at all!

#12: Re: mot disaster yesterday.. Author: peugeotgti PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:05 pm
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Well ive not seen them myself yet but its failed on three seperate pipes and has an advisory on another..
Fails on btake pipes are...
nearside(front to rear) brakepipe xsivly corroded
offside. " " " " " " " " " ".
Offside rear. " " " " " ".
Offside front brake pipe slightly corroded.
Needless to say that if once i look the brake pipes are not excessively corroded i will not be changing them and will need advice if that is the case???
I will let you all know..

#13: Re: mot disaster yesterday.. Author: lukepug19, Location: Oxfordshire PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:06 am
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emissions could be anything from a failed cat to a faulty lamda sensor which could be telling it to over fuel causing bad emissions

#14: Re: mot disaster yesterday.. Author: peugeotgti PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:11 am
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Well the emmisions are getting sorted now..
ive stripped and cleaned the throttle and icv etc.
im servicing the car.
I have some really special combustion system conditioner.
And im pretty sure this will bring the numbers into line..

#15: Re: mot disaster yesterday.. Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfield PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:43 am
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What product are you usimg.
Fuel additive, or the air intake spray stuff.



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