#1: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: James3107, Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:42 am ---- ***UPDATE***
[b]Hi Everyone.
Just purchased my first Peugeot and its a 1.4 Hdi in Blue (Pics to follow soon!)
These are when i first picked it up. notice somebody had been rather careless with the rear quater, so booked it in for a repair, respray and colour coding also he's gonna touch up some other little scratches for free if he has paint left over. which is good of him.
This is my first diesel car and by far the first economical car I've owned but with my new job requiring a 140 mile round trip every day, The vts has had to go.
I want more power out of the car and I'm planning a full custom built de-cat straight through exhaust from Tony Banks in Leeds and then remapping at RS tuning.
Will the exhaust affect the BHP much? and is it worth the £250+ price tag? will she still sound like a tractor?
Also i would prefer to fit an intercooler before the map as i really don't want overheating with such huge mileage every day.
I've combed the threads all morning and can't find any advice on intercooling a 1.4 HDi only info about the 2.0 HDi.
Is it considered not worth it or too much hassle?
any help would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks in advance Last edited by James3107 on Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:55 am; edited 3 times in total
#2: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: southwestchap, Location: DevonPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:32 am ---- couple people have intercooled the 1.4hdi.
Good choice and the exhaust. the CAT/particulate filter is right after the turbo stopping it from breathing freely. I'm in the middle of making a decat pipe up for mine.
Air box is quite restrictive to the turbo so I'll be looking into that as well. Remap sees them just shy of 100bhp but with an intercooler I reckon just over?
#3: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: James3107, Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:11 am ---- Are you just decating or getting a full ss system?
Would the 2.0 hdi air box go on it? Maybe with a good panel filter I've heard induction systems are no good for diesels? Not 100% sure though.
Yeah I just want more bottom end poke. But don't want it overheating.
What about one if these universal fmic kits off eBay? The ones that come with ss pipe work. Would that go on these cars?
Im guessing an uprated clutch would be advised to handle the torque. Which could be a problem I've heard the paddle ones are heavy and I do a lot of town driving.
#4: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:31 pm ---- not much power gain you can get from 1.4 HDi,things would be better if you had a 2.0 HDi,but it's your call
#5: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: southwestchap, Location: DevonPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:06 am ----
James3107 wrote:
Are you just decating or getting a full ss system?
Going to go the whole hog and straight through the exhaust. And see what happens
James3107 wrote:
Would the 2.0 hdi air box go on it? Maybe with a good panel filter I've heard induction systems are no good for diesels? Not 100% sure though.
A good quality oem filter is what you would be after, k & n filters have oil on them (to aid filtering) and that has a tendency to break the maf sensor. Wouldnt of thought the 2.0hdi setup will fit. Have a look in the projects section on here. There was a 1.4hdi with some different air setup.
James3107 wrote:
Yeah I just want more bottom end poke. But don't want it overheating.
Youll gain that with the exhaust being less restrictive.
James3107 wrote:
What about one if these universal fmic kits off eBay? The ones that come with ss pipe work. Would that go on these cars?
Would be a custom job really. A mixture of 90 bends, 45 degree angles and silcone joiners. Twin pass intercooler really would suit the 206 well.
James3107 wrote:
Im guessing an uprated clutch would be advised to handle the torque. Which could be a problem I've heard the paddle ones are heavy and I do a lot of town driving.
Uprated would help as the clutches are tiny in these. Mine is slipping now. But its on 171k and i reckon its original. I shall probably stick another oem one in, valeo/luk. Due to the driveability. Never actually driven a paddle clutch so cant comment actually.
With all these medications ensure you tell your insurance. Anything that wasn't there when it came out of the factory will be classed as a change.
#6: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: TelaKeppi, Location: FinlandPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:00 am ---- If you are willing to spend, you can istall CDA intake like this
FMIC from 1.6 HDi (above) fits, but you could also go creative and do a custom chargecooler setup like what I've been doing.
Straight through pipe is a waste of money, just hollow out the cat and replace the backbox with straight pipe. No BHP gains, but turbo spools faster and you get lower EGT. You'll get bottom end poke by cleaning the intake and while doing so, block the EGR pipe to keep it clean longer.
#7: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: James3107, Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:12 am ----
southwestchap wrote:
Going to go the whole hog and straight through the exhaust. And see what happens
Thats what I want to do, just need to justify the price tag for it.
southwestchap wrote:
A good quality oem filter is what you would be after, k & n filters have oil on them (to aid filtering) and that has a tendency to break the maf sensor. Wouldnt of thought the 2.0hdi setup will fit. Have a look in the projects section on here. There was a 1.4hdi with some different air setup.
So regular replace of air filter is a good idea then?
southwestchap wrote:
Uprated would help as the clutches are tiny in these. Mine is slipping now. But its on 171k and i reckon its original. I shall probably stick another oem one in, valeo/luk. Due to the driveability. Never actually driven a paddle clutch so cant comment actually.
Yeah I've noticed mines already slipping if I put my foot down, which i don't really do so it's not inconvenient, but I'm going to get it replaced before the remap and hopefully it'll be strong enough.
#8: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: James3107, Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:18 am ----
TelaKeppi wrote:
If you are willing to spend, you can istall CDA intake like this
FMIC from 1.6 HDi (above) fits, but you could also go creative and do a custom chargecooler setup like what I've been doing.
That looks great! How much have you spent on a charge cooler? And is it a difficult set up to build? I haven't a lot of free time and I can't have my car off the road too long.
So the 1.6 Hdi cooler fits? does all the pipework fit or is that a custom job as well?
TelaKeppi wrote:
You'll get bottom end poke by cleaning the intake and while doing so, block the EGR pipe to keep it clean longer.
I've heard about blocking the EGR valve before? Is it a difficult job to do?
#9: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: TelaKeppi, Location: FinlandPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:54 pm ---- You can use some of the piping, but the intake manifold is different. The blue pipe in the picture above will be pain to fit for sure.
Chargecooler itself was pretty cheap from eBay, around 100€. Modifying the cooler 300€. Bosch chargecooler pump 100€. Fiat Seicento radiator around 30€.
It's my daily driver as well so I bought another intake manifold to take measures and use it as a jig. Piping isn't done yet, its a slow process.
Blanking the EGR pipe is just a small plate from eBay. Quite easy to fit and doesn't need removing the pipe. After that, you'll have to get ECU reprogrammed, it throws faults when its blanked but no EML.
#10: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: James3107, Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:01 am ---- So I decided to debadge it today and remove the pillar vinyls, I think they look better, but its a matter of opinion on this I think.
Ignore the condition of the number plates, private plates been sent off for, thinking about Stubby plates on as its 6 digits. I think this will suit the front as its so low but I'm a bit skeptical about the back. Anyone got pictures of this? or opinions?
Removing the Pillar Vinyl...
Finished products...
#11: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: James3107, Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:11 am ---- Plans are:
CC'd
Gti spoiler
M3 mirrors
Heko Deflectors
Stubby aerial
White Nimrod wheels
Eibach Sportline 45mm drop lowering kit with Bilstein B4 shocks
Sp Grill
decat stainless full system.
looking into intercooling it
Remap
egr delete
Tinted windows
Gti arches
any advice would be nice Last edited by James3107 on Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:53 pm; edited 1 time in total
#12: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: lukepug19, Location: OxfordshirePosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:18 am ---- going to keep an eye on this looks like it will be a good thread
#13: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: James3107, Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:17 am ---- Gave her a service today as the service history stopped in 2009 but was full to max of oil and new discs and pads on front, oil filter looked dirty but not full of gunk, as was the air filter so I presume its been serviced in the last 4 years.
chose crosland filters and Shell Helix ultra 5w 40
#14: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: James3107, Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:23 am ---- Also I'm wanting some Hid's but definitely don't want to be that
that drives round with hid's in their reflectors, does anyone know of decent OEM looking projectors that i can attach a 5k hid kit to? Dont want chavvy looking ones, but I do quite like the masked crystals, any projector alternatives?
looking into some junyan crystals as well for the rear, but can't find a supplier anywhere! anybody pruchased these before?
Wheel choice at the moment is white 16" Nimrods, I originally thought white as the car was such a basic blue that looks awful up to the aegean blue, it needed something to make it stand out. But I am a little apprehensive to take the plunge, any better colour anyone would recommend or any feedback on the white would be appreciated.
Thanks
#15: Re: Peugeot 1.4 HDi new purchase Author: James3107, Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:54 pm ---- Decided to De-cat today...
seems a little more responsive now and pulls lower down in the rev range, think with a remap this will be fairly nippy for a small derv.
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