#1: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:48 pm ---- Hi there 206 Friends.
I Am in need of a little help, got a 1.6 8V Roland garros (2000) WReg
I Have an alternator has died (need to get new one) but had no choice in driving back home from neath south wales to sheerness Kent, i managed to get on the M25 till the car died, so called the aa who was there within 10 mins, the plan was to to stick another battery on and he wall fallow, but for some reason the dreaded management light has come on and can not restart the car, so it was a free lift back home, i charged my battery over night put it back in the car and that light is still on and cant start the car, plenty of battery so can someone think if what it could be? im so stressed with this car now please please someone out there "Help ME"
Kind Regards
Dom.....
#2: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:13 pm ---- Check the earth. Didn't the AA fault read it?
#3: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:14 pm ---- How go you know the alternator is dead? I can't imagine you would get 50 miles with a dead alternator.
#4: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:54 pm ---- because it was not charging, and also the battery light stayed on, i didn't use the radio use any lights apart for braking 2 or 3 time because i had to.... i have put pp on there but not understanding what the codes are, ect i have taken some pic's if i can work out upload them here,?
Kind Regards
Dom.....
#5: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:49 am ---- Just write the codes up on here. Use photo bucket to upload pics.
#6: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: southwestchap, Location: DevonPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:58 am ---- get the codes up as said. could be a number of things. One time when we had a 1.4 that wouldn't start it turned out to be the crank shaft sensor was dodgy
#7: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:29 am ---- Hi there guys thank you for all your help so far,
below is a link to the pictures of PP2000 with errors on the car,
there may be a few repeated pictures on there, if so i'm sorry my head is in the shed with it all at the moment,
please have a look at the pictures and give me some advice on what the problem is and where to find it,
#8: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:20 am ---- Can't see the pictures clearly.
#9: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:03 am ---- Hi there again
i have just done some screen grabs hope you can see it better, i have done a BSI reset & Still have the problem, nothing has changed,
#10: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:14 pm ---- Doesn't look good tbh. Sounds like a knackered bsi.
#11: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:11 pm ---- i have another bsi & ecu arriving here on Tuesday, i got that feeling that the ecu/bsi spiked when the car run out of battery power ;(
KR
Dom.....
#12: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:38 am ---- Hi there friends,
ok new BSI & ECU Replaced and still getting Wire 8628 shortened to positive Repair the harness,
can someone please tell me where this is??? i have also replaced the ecu relay under the ecu All fuses have been replaced, still got engin magagment light on and car the car still will not start, *****HELP*****
Regards
Dom.....
#13: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:59 am ---- 8628 or 8272?
#14: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:59 am ----
sheerness wrote:
ok new BSI & ECU Replaced and still getting Wire 8628 shortened to positive Repair the harness,
8628 or 8272 as stated in the picture?
From looking at the picture, it's possible that it's linked to the immobiliser. Quite common for the aerial to need replacing at the ignition barrel.
#15: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:15 am ---- opsssss its 8272 my mistake,
also it is a replacement key barrel and key,
kind regards
Dom.....
#16: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:20 am ---- if you guys want to log in to my pc and do the diagnostic and have a go to try and get to the bottom of this would be gr8, my brother is also stumped on this issue to and he does fix cars on the side. but he now hate's pugs and citroen lol.....
#17: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:25 am ---- One thing we can say is that you need to find the break between pin 3 on the 26 way yellow connector in the BSI which runs to pin 3 of the 6 way black connector on 8220 - analogue module transponder, which is the immo chip receiver.
#18: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:19 pm ---- Hi there thank you very much for that info, I have located the yellow block and pin 3, I am thinking I will just run a new wire from that pin 3 of the yellow plug on the bsi to the 6 way black connector on 8220 AMT, Can you tell me where about's this 6 way black connector is located? The dashboard has been removed but I am not really wanting to take the heating system out again and removing all the antifreeze and so on, Thank you macca1411 for you help, I am very hopeful that I will be driving my car again in a few days with your help, I was hoping that I could have done this today as the new Ecu & Bsi arrive as it is my birthday oh well lol..... Again "thank You" for your help so far
Dom.....
#19: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:20 am ---- hi there
i have replaced a wire that goes to the ring around the key barrel we now have this code
still a non start,
*****HELp*****
#20: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:41 am ---- Have you tried a bsi reset since changing the wire?
#21: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:36 pm ---- yeah we did, still there same, i have taken some screen shots today,
please take a look and please put me in the rite direction, i love my car but it getting to the point that i will just have to scrap her, i really don't want to do that,
again kind regards
Dom.....
#22: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:28 pm ---- hi there guys i was advised to put back the original ecu & bsi
I have taken screen pics of PP.... car is still a non start,
can someone please advise on what the next step would be???
Hi guys below is a pic of the ECU that is under the bonnet,
this is what is in it when I bought the car a year ago,
so If i am correct that there is not power going in to this to tell the petrol pump to come on and also to have no spark then if you guys could help with providing me some kind of pinout so I can get the power to the unit, I Have replaced the Relay under the ecu to have no change so I have put original back in its place,
again any help would be great
thanks for any help that you can provide guys
Dom....... Last edited by sheerness on Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:37 pm; edited 2 times in total
#23: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:22 am ---- **bump** still needing advice please friends
#24: Re: ***HeLp*** Engine Management issue Author: sheerness, Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:08 pm ---- hi guys
i would like to thank you all for the information that you have been giving me,
i am gutted to say that i have decided to sell the car/breaking, i am so gutted to do this i have had the car for only a year now and spent £2000.00 on bits and bobs and i think its time i cut my looses,
but thank you to everyone for trying to help me with this
Gutted
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