#1: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:53 pm ---- hey guys, im looking for any members that have converted a 1.4 to a gti. (1.4 2000 plate an gti 1999 plate). if so id like to ask a question or two lol. i have a complete gti for a donor an my mate owns a garage so ill be getting it done in the next month or so so just looking to get some advice an to just double check what i know. after the conversion`s done ill put up a progress thread as once the engines done im having a good few changes done to the car along with another respray. so im thinking a bit of a euro look maybe but sutle thanks in advace guys.
#2: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:09 pm ---- What's up with the gti?
#3: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:50 pm ---- nothing tbh,i got it as it was cheap only had 6mths t&t an i only wanted it for parts for mine so its almost complete i just stripped some things of to sell
#4: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:49 pm ---- Just use the gti?
#5: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:00 pm ---- cant as i need a five door and ive spent to much on my car as it is, an have already started stripping an selling bits off the gti. plus my car is a project and i like the idea that its made the way i like it kinda a personal thing lol
#6: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:01 pm ----
Howey wrote:
Just use the gti?
This will save you time,work,and money :),and you will have everything OEM and not swapped
#7: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:07 pm ---- thanks but i want to do it as my engines not too good an its what i want a five door gti lol, an as for time its not an issue my mate owns a garage doing mechanics an electric`s and as i have the doner car already it not going to cost much at all.
#8: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:24 pm ---- As long as you understand the electrics side of the 206, just swap everything over.
Keep the VIN number from the GTi if you ever get problems down the line.
#9: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:40 pm ---- hi thanks,im going to keep the vin num. i dont 100% but my mate does.
this was what i was thinking to swap to complete the conversion just not sure if i missed anything lol
engine
gearbox
engine bay loom
ecu
complete front subframe inc brakes,suspension legs,steering rack
chip from key with key reader around ing barrell
rear axel (mines not to good anyway)
speedo cluster
not to sure if i missed anything that i`d need also not sure if i`d run into any issues when doing this, so was hopeing someone that has done this could gimme a few pointers on what id need an what to look out for. as for electrics i thought it was a case of swaping ecu an loom
#10: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: omega, Location: nottinghamPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:07 pm ---- fuelpump will be different.
#11: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:10 pm ---- thanks, i knew that lol 1.4 pump wont deliver fuel fast enough, i forgot to put that in my list. i was just going to swap tanks around as i thought it be easier.
#12: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:02 am ----
pumba wrote:
thanks, i knew that lol 1.4 pump wont deliver fuel fast enough, i forgot to put that in my list. i was just going to swap tanks around as i thought it be easier.
Yeah,u better do that.
#13: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:10 am ---- You'll need the ABS bits too...
#14: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:42 am ---- on
Really! I didn't think I would need it as my car don't have abs
#15: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:11 am ---- You might get away without it. The ECU/BSi will expect ABS to be there. Doesn't interfere with the driving of the car though so just remove the bulb from the clocks.
#16: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:57 am ---- And you'll need the bsi.
#17: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: sicskate, Location: Margate, KentPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:18 pm ---- Interior dash loom and ecu too.
#18: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:26 pm ---- Thanks for the info.I never thought about the abs as mine never had it but as ill be using the gti clocks I wasnt sure if it would put the abs light so wss thinking just trmove the bulb lol as I aint sure if id be able to turn it off any other way
#19: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:33 pm ---- Thanks guys never thought id had to swap the bsi
So I need dash loom too thought I could just use mine, is the ecu your on about the one in the engine bay or is there one in the car aswell?
Also were is the bsi to thanks for the help guys
#20: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:41 pm ---- Also guys has any other member done this I could msg thats willing to give some info on this
#21: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:52 pm ---- You'll also need the airbag ecu as well.
#22: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:06 pm ---- Wont my airbag ecu work then didnt even cross my mind
#23: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:22 pm ---- Yeah should be fine sorry
#24: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:05 pm ---- hey guys I still haven’t got the info I need lol,can any one confirm my list please or send me a list of what’s needed also if there is any guides or members project threads of fitting a gti lump in a 1.4 or similar can you please post me the links thanks.
also id like to thank all the members that have give me some info as ive notice there’s not many members on this site that’s willing to help or give info...
after speaking with a mate of mine he’s suggested instead of swapping bsi an dash loom it would be easier to just use engine with engine loom an a free running ecu can any shed more light on using free running ecu`s an where to get them unlocked many thanks guy`s
#25: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:40 pm ---- Free running? Does it walk too?
Serious note what the f*** is your mate talking about?
For most people, it will be easier to swap:
Engine
Gearbox
Engine ecu
Bsi
Abs ecu (pump if different too)
Engine fuseboard (bm34)
Complete vehicle and engine loom
Subframe
Hubs
Driveshafts
Rear axle (might aswell for the larger torsion bars/arb)
Exhaust system
there's your answer so go get busy
#26: Re: advice needed for a gti swap Author: pumba, Location: gwent s,walesPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:53 pm ---- hi thanks addaz.by free running i meant ulocked/plug an play seems pepole call it a few diffrent terms but means the same lol also my car dont have abs so im guessing i wont need this if im correct an would i be able to do the conversion with out the vehicle loom an just the engine loom if i use an unlocked ecu thanks
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