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#1: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: davepug PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:29 am
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Hi All

Has anybody experienced the clip-on battery connection continually coming loose? When reconnected, the clip seems tight enough to hold, but 2-3 journeys later all electrics go and sure enough, the connection has slipped off. I’m assuming I need to replace the wiring loom, but without having had a chance to pull it to pieces yet I don’t know where the other end of the loom will go.

Nb. I dont know if it is the positive or negative terminal, but it is the one nearer the front of the car.

Any ideas on the location of the other end of the wiring loom?

Or is this a sign that the battery terminal is corroding and a new battery is needed?

Cheers

#2: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: Timon2210, Location: Palestine PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:37 am
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Well that would be the Positive terminal,as the negative terminal don't use the clip-on method,but to replace this,you need to replace many things attached to it,but maybe with some work you can replace the clip-on itself,but fix it fast,as this will cause you problems regarding have the battery charged well,and when loose,it will get hot,which is not a good thing in electric world Sad

#3: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:18 am
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Just buy a normal battery connector, cut the old one off and replace it. 5 minute job. You need to make sure you get the right size for the post though.
 

#4: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: davepug PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:26 am
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So i can replace the spring part of the clip/clamp with a bolt of some description, a bit of a clean on the terminal and the inside of the clamp, and the tighter the better?

#5: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: Seatock789, Location: Morecambe PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:55 am
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Not too tight otherwise you'll strip the thread and you'll be back at square 1. Once you've think you've tightened it try pulling it off and you'll know whether it's tight enough.

#6: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:38 am
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Look at the battery terminal section of polevolt on the internet.

#7: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:35 am
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No, do not use that part instead of a proper quick-release terminal as it is a safety feature of the car, as well as very convenient.

#8: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: omega, Location: nottingham PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:58 am
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V9977 wrote:
No, do not use that part instead of a proper quick-release terminal as it is a safety feature of the car, as well as very convenient.


when did you last use the quick release in an emergency?
I have the terminal pictured on mine as I had the same problem,6 months later its still fine.
it only takes a minute to undo anyway with a 10 mm spanner

#9: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:25 pm
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The quick release was there for the Peugeot models that liked turning themselves into a mobile BBQ. This problem was sorted with a safety recall.

Granted if your car was involved in a major bump it would be quicker flicking the quick release off than having to look for a spanner, but taking the battery lead off, providing you could lift the bonnet, would be the least of my worries.

#10: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:22 pm
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omega wrote:
V9977 wrote:
No, do not use that part instead of a proper quick-release terminal as it is a safety feature of the car, as well as very convenient.

when did you last use the quick release in an emergency?
I have the terminal pictured on mine as I had the same problem,6 months later its still fine.
it only takes a minute to undo anyway with a 10 mm spanner

macca1411 wrote:
The quick release was there for the Peugeot models that liked turning themselves into a mobile BBQ. This problem was sorted with a safety recall.

Granted if your car was involved in a major bump it would be quicker flicking the quick release off than having to look for a spanner, but taking the battery lead off, providing you could lift the bonnet, would be the least of my worries.

Mr.BSI was peddling this about it being a Peugeot thing and frying things but as far as I know all vehicles are fitted with these for years now.

When I was about 5 (1979) I remember stopping in my grandad's Peugeot 403 , at an incident with an overturned car on the side of the road. There was smell of fuel etc so everybody was trying to a) get the driver out of there and b) Disconnect the battery because the front was mangled and loom damage was certain in the engine or battery compartment.
They didn't manage to 'cut' that cable but everything was alright and the person got out OK.

But I use it to reset the ECU whenever I want to punish her for something.

Twisted Evil

#11: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: davepug PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:43 am
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macca1411 wrote:
Just buy a normal battery connector, cut the old one off and replace it. 5 minute job. You need to make sure you get the right size for the post though.
 

In doing this, i think i am going to need to extend the wires in some way, as the new clamp i have bought is shorter than the old clamp i am removing. Any particular way of doing this? Im assuming im going to need to find my crimper etc?

#12: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, Sweden PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:08 am
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davepug wrote:

In doing this, i think i am going to need to extend the wires in some way, as the new clamp i have bought is shorter than the old clamp i am removing. Any particular way of doing this? Im assuming im going to need to find my crimper etc?

I used a terminal that has a metal bar secured by 2 screws where the bare wire is normally supposed to be clamped (smiliar to these). I cut away only part of the original fitting, leaving the attachment to the wire and the angled bit, removing the parts that went around the terminal and the lever etc. The angled bit was then clamped in the new terminal.

#13: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:09 am
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You'd be better off getting a complete new length rather than try and piece it. The join will cause a resistance and then you'll wish you had the quick release clamp fitted.

#14: Re: Battery Terminal Wiring Loom Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, Sweden PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:24 am
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macca1411 wrote:
You'd be better off getting a complete new length rather than try and piece it. The join will cause a resistance and then you'll wish you had the quick release clamp fitted.

FWIW (and all depends on exactly how, and with what materials, things are done) - my 'bodge' has been, and is still, working perfectly more than three times longer than the original spring clamp was in the car (from new) until I lost patience with it.

And given the precautions listed for battery [dis]connection, how good can it be for the clamp to come loose randomly while the car is running?



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