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#1: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:54 pm
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Hello everyone (newbie) I have had my 206 1.4 hdi 04 sine august 2013 and have spent a lot on repairs and am reluctant to give up having spent so much...
The drivers airbag light came on 2 weeks ago and having researched I decided I'd go and get it put on a machine at the local garage (£54) they said comms 2000 faulty,£263 fitted . I did some more research and came across a guy who could fix them for a fraction of the price, so today I was up at 5am for my long trip to Bradford to get my airbag light fixed. I turned up met the chap and out came the tools and he said it's not the comms as no power to one of the wires leading to air bag so he took the airbag ecu off and scratched the connectors with a knife to get a better contact and then plugged it back in and the passenger airbag also came on as he then realised someone had used a resistor on the lead to the airbag further down the column which now meant the lead was not dead just cut short and bridged so he took the resistor off and tested and power was there,so the commas 2000 is now the suspect again. But I have now got 2 airbag lights on and he said he has not got a clue why and put it all back together and I left for my 3hr drive home with my mouth wide open! I am now really worried about what damage has been done to the ecu and airbags as I have MOT in March and am at a loss what to do. I Am considering Peugeot dealer which in hindsight I wish I had done 1st and am kicking my self for being so stupid. Sorry to go on but thought someone maybe able to shed some light.

#2: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Timon2210, Location: Palestine PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:25 pm
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well do you know what the garage used to do diagnostic,was it a PP2000 (Peugeot Planet 2000),if so,it will tell the one who done the diagnostic which causing the fault,this way,you will save money and time.

#3: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:43 pm
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I don't il call and ask tho. Thanks

#4: Re: Nightmare Day Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfield PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:03 pm
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At £54 i would hope it was pp or better.

Sounds like also the guy in Queensbury has done you a favour in a strange kind of way, he has found wiring that has been tampered (bodged) within in the air bag system, the multiplex wiring system is way complex and he would have suspicions about just changing the comms, incase of nackering the new one.

I personally would get an indipendent auto elec who is well trained in multiplex systems, to check the wiring before any comms unit is fitted.

#5: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:15 pm
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I know but I can't get over the fact I went there with one airbag fault and came back with 2

#6: Re: Nightmare Day Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfield PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:29 pm
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Did he disconect the battery before he fiddled with the wiring, i pressume he did, either way have you tried a bsi reset.

#7: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:08 am
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No he didn't disconnect anything and I did mention this as had read not to touch anything with testing gear with out disconnecting the battery. BSI reset was not done either as he just said I've no clue why that's happened and that was that.

#8: Re: Nightmare Day Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:14 am
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Phil74 wrote:
No he didn't disconnect anything and I did mention this as had read not to touch anything with testing gear with out disconnecting the battery. BSI reset was not done either as he just said I've no clue why that's happened and that was that.

The so-called comm2000 repair expert started messing with airbags and didn't disconnect the battery first! Sounds about right for an ebay seller.

Have you checked the PP2000 map to see if anyone is close by that could possibly diagnose the fault properly rather than you wasting even more money on monkeys who make the problem worse.

#9: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:37 am
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I'd try a proper auto electrician. Not a Peugeot dealer. They will have Planet Peugeot too.

#10: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:28 pm
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Just in from work. I don't know what peugeot map is? Im debating wheather to go to peugeot as a auto electrician is going to cost me and maybe only tell me the fault and il still have to get it fixed and pay again and I bet who ever fixes will want to put it on a machine again ( head hurts) thought about nothing but the car all day. Just so we are clear I did explain all the issues to the Bradford guy and he said 99.9% he can fix.

#11: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:30 pm
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Any risks doing a BSI? Can't find this in the handbook

#12: Re: Nightmare Day Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfield PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:41 pm
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No risks involved.

Make sure you turn off the passanger airbag with the key, although it is obviously lit.

www.petercoopercarrepa...cedure.htm

#13: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:47 pm
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Cheers, im going to have a go now

#14: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:58 pm
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Phil74 wrote:
Im debating wheather to go to peugeot as a auto electrician is going to cost me

Peugeot dealer will cost far more than an independent auto electrician and they will probably know less.

#15: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:03 pm
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No joy just done it and still the same

#16: Re: Nightmare Day Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfield PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:04 pm
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Just dug up this old post for you to ponder at, gives some insight to why you have a resistor in the wiring loom.

www.206info.co.uk/Foru...rt=15.html

Last edited by DREWDEN on Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:07 pm; edited 1 time in total

#17: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:06 pm
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Il have a look at local auto electrics and call a few 2morro

#18: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:24 pm
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DREWDEN wrote:
Just dug up this old post for you to ponder at, gives some insight to why you have a resistor in the wiring loom.

www.206info.co.uk/Foru...rt=15.html
So this would suggest the previous owner did the resistor trick I thought this when I seen it Sunday

#19: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:55 am
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Called Peugeot today and they said £95.56 to be put on machine and then will price up to fix- rip off. Any one heard of ips (independent peugeot specialists? There in Coventry

#20: Re: Nightmare Day Author: Phil74 PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:17 am
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I've fixed it :):):):):) so pleased . Ok so I bought a comms unit made by Valeo £134 I fitted it today and drivers airbag light went out but still had passenger light on grrrr so I took the centre consul out and removed the air bag module and I found a frayed wire coming out the connector which must have been done when the Bradford man removed as this light was not on previously and he must have caught the wire as it's right next to connecting bolt you need to remove, and this wire was shorting out against the body of the car Throwing up the fault so I used electric tape to insulate this to stop the shorting out and put everything back together and thank god no more airbag light! My only advise to anyone in my situation is avoid any so called repair men that are not approved as I've learnt the hard way but I am pleased I managed to fit the comms and spot the frayed wire . Total cost £134 +£40 fuel to get to Bradford and back. Thanks for your help

#21: Re: Nightmare Day Author: kandlbarrett, Location: Swindon PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:15 pm
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I am shocked that any repair man would play with airbag system with battery connected. The inside of a car is NOT the place to be when a bag goes bang. it is bad enough when you are restrained by a seat belt and the bag goes off. Any closer than that and the pain and bruises are nasty.



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