#1: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:34 pm ---- or is it budget? so far after taking over the mrs ex car lol (Lady Penelope) as she called in her fine silver dress and 16inch boots popin off @ locals walking the streets .. First buy was some 16 tsw mono light weight wheels from halfords . £100 last years stock as they where displayed stacked 4 high . no marks but red dots on 3 tyres ! off comes the 17 in wolfrace rims . To big car didnt look right with out being lowerd ,had wobble throu steering @ 80 mph & bold tyres .so @ £12.50 a wheel & tyre i grabbed a bargin .
All fitted with spacers @ wheel bolts from the wolfrace rims. Front right wheel bolts where a bit stiff .( not normal was like its had a big impact in the wheel & bent the bolt a very small amout. looked under the car & front bumper is snaped underneath @ the fixing . Off down the road & still wobble.Mot due soon so i left it to see what would be an issue if any .. It failed on front windscreen water jets & front right wheel bearing.advisory of rear brake pads ..
I fitted new front lower arm & hub front right as i just knew it was bent in some way & saved messing about doing a bearing .£30 ..all new pads £40 & water jet from scrappys 4 free , Abs light comes on as sensor was diffrent in the new hub. i changed it over & it broke . new abs sensor £47 .. all sweet passed mot . sweet now 2 tune it .Looking for an exhaust or some go faster stickers on ebay .I brought the straight thou middle pipe from hoffmans? £34 gt3 back box £ 92 .and a blue massive air filter £17 .15mm wheel spacers jjc? £37 bolts inc..bargin cheep ebay crap? Turns out only the air filter is poor quality due to the rubber seal connection to the air inlet
..Off down the road and its abit loud barry !!! did it pop then ? hell yea as the weeks rolled on the pops and bangs became louder and crisp . the car felt more responsive on throttle & drank petrol quite abit more .. how i dont know ,, ecu must be ..
So whats next looking online there's alot of tune options for the engine or is there for cheep cheep mate ! Best option for me was celtic tuning , after watching there cool videos on youtube it was a must also the gains looked good ,Was on tdi's mostly thou , I booked in .I changed the plugs & oil 5/30 . end result after map was 120.9 @ the wheels with loads of added torque , redline moved to 7,000 Rpm,£ 250 well spent . petrol is better now & is much qucker to drive . Alot more fun .. To be continued B Last edited by Project2062014 on Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
#2: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Hawkers, Location: Norwich, United KingdomPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:42 pm ----
#3: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:13 pm ---- Continuing on . Why dont you buy a 180 ? Boring no parts up 2 grade unless its big money ! Big money big gains. Budget fun is with the 138 gti simpols..To be diffrent & go no where no 206 has gone before ,Cheep but with a high standard. We have a ew10j4 to tune how ? Ive paid for a ew10a plastic air inlet manifold £50.Saxo vts Throttle body£30. Drilled & grooved front disks £19.49 fleabay(bit cheep?) . Cambelt & water pump kit £79 gates . hopefull get all this fitted within a couple of weeks ,Then 180 exhaust manifold n de-cat pipe made up .Will keep this forum updated with my progress , Any advice ideas will be good cheers B .
#4: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:16 pm ----
Hawkers wrote:
Grama?
aint it like?
#5: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: kirk46, Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:17 pm ---- Lol
#6: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:22 pm ---- What ever is this all about lol. Good luck in fitting them parts!
#7: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:35 am ---- Whats the point it letting it rev to 7k rpm? Power drops off after 6.5k rpm anyway. Remap won't change that.
#8: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:44 am ----
Edward wrote:
Whats the point it letting it rev to 7k rpm? Power drops off after 6.5k rpm anyway. Remap won't change that.
Mine peaks @5.500 Rpm torque n bhp peaks at 6.900 .. ,it sounds good in 3rd foot flat all the way 2 7,000 . .. & its quick
#9: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:21 am ---- Unless you have longer duration cams it won't!
#10: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:48 pm ---- Don't you know that you get the most power when you bounce it off the limiter
#11: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:14 pm ---- Well my ew10j4s is running 250bhp and thats just from an ebay resistor
#12: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:49 am ----
mattymj wrote:
Well my ew10j4s is running 250bhp and thats just from an ebay resistor
And if you add enough fuel line magnets it will improve your fuel efficiency that much that your engine will run on fresh air.
#13: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:22 am ---- You go faster if you drive into a wall did you know ? hit it about 120 mph u shoud be doing 200mph out the otherside . . go faster stripes go for it kidda !
#14: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: JamieM, Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:57 am ---- Seems daft if you want a quick 206. Unless you got a bargain basement 138 the price between that and a 180 is not so far apart. Instead you'd have saved all that money it is going to cost to get it near 180 power and could have lumped it in to a 180.
Still be interesting to see what you do.. pics would be good mate.
#15: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:59 pm ---- Pic will come soon , all 180 drivers are women round here ,and properly else where ! Tuning pug for something to do , see what's what ! 180 don't interest me , all the same 206 is a 206 , , to be different ! I do things my way not your way ,, n this path started on a 138 bhp model ,, my bad ,, just got GT front bumper on it , sits ok needs a touch up & brackets made up to keep it up at a nice angle . Dropped a little one side as bottom plastic bracket is snapped , cannot see it but I know it !
#16: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:58 pm ---- Unfortuantly mate, budget and tunning never enter the same sentence
GOod luck though!
#17: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:10 am ----
#18: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:42 am ---- Any videos?
#19: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:49 pm ----
mattymj wrote:
Any videos?
no but I could make some . What you looking to see ? Revs & speedo flat out ? Thinking could tape the phone up to dash ,
#20: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: usher, Location: northallertonPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:26 pm ---- I'm a little sceptical about the results on that rolling Road not many cars have the spec bhp let alone after years of use
#21: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:43 pm ----
usher wrote:
I'm a little sceptical about the results on that rolling Road not many cars have the spec bhp let alone after years of use
it's in on Wednesday for a run will post results . Had new plugs oil was on shell nitro for the remap , they said they couldn't remap it again ? Now I've put race exhaust manifold and Grinded the TB out ! So I've booked in for a run . Don't understand ,
#22: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: usher, Location: northallertonPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:21 pm ---- they should be able to re map it for the new mods unless it was a generic map they used
#23: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: JamieM, Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:30 am ----
Project2062014 wrote:
Pic will come soon , all 180 drivers are women round here ,and properly else where ! Tuning pug for something to do , see what's what ! 180 don't interest me , all the same 206 is a 206 , , to be different ! I do things my way not your way ,, n this path started on a 138 bhp model ,, my bad ,, just got GT front bumper on it , sits ok needs a touch up & brackets made up to keep it up at a nice angle . Dropped a little one side as bottom plastic bracket is snapped , cannot see it but I know it !
Hells bells you're hard to understand. You puff?
I particularly like ' all 180 drivers are women round here ,and properly else where !' - I'm unsure what you mean? what like actual women or can't compete with your 17 gear changes?
&
'I do things my way not your way'
Skeen go hard or go home fam isn't it, I show you, not you show me. loooooooool.
It's just the internet mate don't get caught up. Just opinions you'll not agree with most of the s**t you read on forums.
Anyway good luck with it.
#24: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: usher, Location: northallertonPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:50 pm ---- what were the results from the rollers
#25: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: oldskoolz, Location: LondonPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:08 am ---- Didn't you say you're peak power was at 6,900? None of the rolling road runs show that......
#26: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: usher, Location: northallertonPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:09 am ---- no results posted either from 4 month ago
#27: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:23 am ----
JamieM wrote:
Project2062014 wrote:
Pic will come soon , all 180 drivers are women round here ,and properly else where ! Tuning pug for something to do , see what's what ! 180 don't interest me , all the same 206 is a 206 , , to be different ! I do things my way not your way ,, n this path started on a 138 bhp model ,, my bad ,, just got GT front bumper on it , sits ok needs a touch up & brackets made up to keep it up at a nice angle . Dropped a little one side as bottom plastic bracket is snapped , cannot see it but I know it !
Hells bells you're hard to understand. You puff?
I particularly like ' all 180 drivers are women round here ,and properly else where !' - I'm unsure what you mean? what like actual women or can't compete with your 17 gear changes?
&
'I do things my way not your way'
Skeen go hard or go home fam isn't it, I show you, not you show me. loooooooool.
It's just the internet mate don't get caught up. Just opinions you'll not agree with most of the s**t you read on forums. You
Anyway good luck with it.
Its good to know that you care ! Caught up lol banter mate . You all to quick to judge !
#28: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:30 am ----
usher wrote:
no results posted either from 4 month ago
Celtic tuning turned out to be a dead end ! They could not help me any further than a software route . A map basically !
Did book it for run .
Changed cambelt & pug felt different .so i asked the to check all was ok on dyno run .
He said he could not check or help . So told them to cancel run !
Looking for a good ecu tuner in southwest !
I am now getting hardware & software to do it all my self .
i think il be on a piggy back ecu .
#29: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: LiamGTi180, Location: OxfordPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:04 pm ---- I disagree with the majority of your points. You want something different so you bought a 206 GTI. IIRC there are a lot fewer 180s kicking about than GTIs. In my time owning (3 years) I rarely drove past another one.
Good luck with the project tho. Be good to see pictures... getting a little lost in paragraphs at the moment.
#30: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:20 am ----
LiamGTi180 wrote:
I disagree with the majority of your points. You want something different so you bought a 206 GTI. IIRC there are a lot fewer 180s kicking about than GTIs. In my time owning (3 years) I rarely drove past another one.
Good luck with the project tho. Be good to see pictures... getting a little lost in paragraphs at the moment.
I said to be different. I DO THINGS MY WAY ! not i want something different . THAT would be a rotary turbo'd .
I disagree with the majority of your points.?? women drive 180,s ? This is because youve got 1. There is loads of 180 in cornwall . I see 1 a day . who said i paid for this car ? As if i would go out of my way to buy a 206 . 206 is a 206 .. ive spent more money on than its worth .. Budget project for fun . after driving it around for awhile i quite like it ! + il see you in my rear view with blonde hair screaming your 180 to keep up . lmfao .
pics look at my profile. threads 206 2001 . some photos . will update this post .
#31: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Vexs, Location: LondonPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:53 am ----
Project2062014 wrote:
LiamGTi180 wrote:
I disagree with the majority of your points. You want something different so you bought a 206 GTI. IIRC there are a lot fewer 180s kicking about than GTIs. In my time owning (3 years) I rarely drove past another one.
Good luck with the project tho. Be good to see pictures... getting a little lost in paragraphs at the moment.
I said to be different. I DO THINGS MY WAY ! not i want something different . THAT would be a rotary turbo'd .
I disagree with the majority of your points.?? women drive 180,s ? This is because youve got 1. There is loads of 180 in cornwall . I see 1 a day . who said i paid for this car ? As if i would go out of my way to buy a 206 . 206 is a 206 .. ive spent more money on than its worth .. Budget project for fun . after driving it around for awhile i quite like it ! + il see you in my rear view with blonde hair screaming your 180 to keep up . lmfao .
pics look at my profile. threads 206 2001 . some photos . will update this post .
You do love a good full stop don't you?
Have you ever taken an English lesson? Your Paragraphs are a headache to read, try a little formatting once in a while.
#32: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:58 am ----
Project2062014 wrote:
LiamGTi180 wrote:
I disagree with the majority of your points. You want something different so you bought a 206 GTI. IIRC there are a lot fewer 180s kicking about than GTIs. In my time owning (3 years) I rarely drove past another one.
Good luck with the project tho. Be good to see pictures... getting a little lost in paragraphs at the moment.
I said to be different. I DO THINGS MY WAY ! not i want something different . THAT would be a rotary turbo'd .
I disagree with the majority of your points.?? women drive 180,s ? This is because youve got 1. There is loads of 180 in cornwall . I see 1 a day . who said i paid for this car ? As if i would go out of my way to buy a 206 . 206 is a 206 .. ive spent more money on than its worth .. Budget project for fun . after driving it around for awhile i quite like it ! + il see you in my rear view with blonde hair screaming your 180 to keep up . lmfao .
pics look at my profile. threads 206 2001 . some photos . will update this post .
Maybe your someone that thinks every 206 with 17s and bucket seats is a 180. Or your seing the same one lol. I must say i travel over 1000 miles a week and i never see one. Would be good to see you pull away from a 180 with all these budget mods.
All the GTi owners will be queuing up for your mods.
#33: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: benkeeganbmx, Location: Newquay, CornwallPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:14 pm ---- This guy... Haha too funny.
#34: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:19 pm ---- Il Link a new vid soon . Last edited by Project2062014 on Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:04 am; edited 1 time in total
I disagree with the majority of your points. You want something different so you bought a 206 GTI. IIRC there are a lot fewer 180s kicking about than GTIs. In my time owning (3 years) I rarely drove past another one.
Good luck with the project tho. Be good to see pictures... getting a little lost in paragraphs at the moment.
I said to be different. I DO THINGS MY WAY ! not i want something different . THAT would be a rotary turbo'd .
I disagree with the majority of your points.?? women drive 180,s ? This is because youve got 1. There is loads of 180 in cornwall . I see 1 a day . who said i paid for this car ? As if i would go out of my way to buy a 206 . 206 is a 206 .. ive spent more money on than its worth .. Budget project for fun . after driving it around for awhile i quite like it ! + il see you in my rear view with blonde hair screaming your 180 to keep up . lmfao .
pics look at my profile. threads 206 2001 . some photos . will update this post .
Maybe your someone that thinks every 206 with 17s and bucket seats is a 180. Or your seing the same one lol. I must say i travel over 1000 miles a week and i never see one. Would be good to see you pull away from a 180 with all these budget mods.
All the GTi owners will be queuing up for your mods.
looks its best with original pug alloys !
seats are standard gti .
#36: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:26 am ---- That looked at least 136 bhp
#37: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: usher, Location: northallertonPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:10 am ---- just a massive lol at using torque app to brag about impossible bhp figures, it looks way slower than my gti, what mods do you have agian obviously a mod chip from ebay and a few fuel magnets
#38: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:54 pm ---- Update
So after 56 pounds later, i am waiting some 180 injectors .
will test them in a ew10j4 and post results .
#39: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:22 pm ---- I found some info
GTI138
▪ Static rate to 3 bar, n-heptane unit [g / min.]: 141
▪ Resistance [Ohm]: 14.5
Part number: 1984 E2
GTI180
▪ Static rate to 3 bar, n-heptane unit [g / min.]: 187
▪ Resistance [Ohm]: 14.5
Part number: 1984 F3
It looks like they will fit but i dont think it will run without mapping them in
#40: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:34 pm ---- So near 187cc worth of injectors, you need 330 to see past 250 mark
#41: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:50 am ---- s1374.photobucket.com/...%20Uploads
Pics of injectors 138 swap for 180 .
All sweet working well .feels stronger .
#42: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:02 am ---- Run some petrol treatment through and a high octane to get the benefits from them
#43: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:33 am ---- Update . Took dogs to beach eml comes on .
P0170 was the code .
Faulty injector or fuel trim ? Seems to be running good . Runs cooler than before . Deeper exhaust note . Stronger low down revs . Picks up better .
I think inlet manifold and a new map !
#44: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: Project2062014, Location: CornwallPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:42 pm ---- 206 gti . 180 injectors fitted.: youtu.be/UawHrfGohIo
#45: Re: Budget tune on a 206 gti ew10j4 . Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:31 pm ---- Aww. Just missing one thing....... VVT
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