cheeers for them them mate, got a couple of questions if thats ok? does your sump guard cover the entire underside of the engine bay, ie does it extend to cover the gearbox as well? the one i have been given will cover the sump and I can make some side plates up for it how much further do i need to go? also is that a metal strap you have around the rear beam to stop the tank guards from 'flapping'? last one is a query aboutt he hydralic hand brake, my car has one fitted but it is in the postion of the standerd handbrake and it also has a locking falicity which enables it to act as a normal handbrake, to your understanding to I need another mechanical lickage as well?? again many thanks much appericated.
Yes my sump guard goes the whole way across the engine and gearbox. It then has side plates that come up into the wheel arches. TBH it depends what sort of rallying you want to do. If you are going to do some gravel rallies then i would say you should invest in a genuine PTS sump guard as it really does take a hammering from rocks and i have heard of cheap copies shattering. i also have another plate off the back of the sumpguard that coveres the bottom of the downpipe as this can be flattened if hit hard enough
The metal strap just holds the tank guard on at the back so that it doesnt hang too low as they fall down with rocks hitting them.
Yes for the handbrake you will need to have some cable operating as well or it will fail scruitineering and its MOT. Unless you can fake that the hydraulic system pulls the cables as well.
Apparently a good one for bodies is a Toyota Corolla one as it is shorter than the standard unit. I think a baffled sump is a good idea, ie prevention > cure!
I have a mix of the Baker/Vibratechnics items and you only need the gearbox mount from VT, however the Baker engine mount (called RHS mount iirc) will require some of the thread being taken off as it is too long as standard!
Jamie
That is what i wil do then just buy the vt gearbox mount. Will have to look into the corolla rad then
#48: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: spud_owen, Location: ashby de la zouchPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:31 pm ----
imjeeves wrote:
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cheeers for them them mate, got a couple of questions if thats ok? does your sump guard cover the entire underside of the engine bay, ie does it extend to cover the gearbox as well? the one i have been given will cover the sump and I can make some side plates up for it how much further do i need to go? also is that a metal strap you have around the rear beam to stop the tank guards from 'flapping'? last one is a query aboutt he hydralic hand brake, my car has one fitted but it is in the postion of the standerd handbrake and it also has a locking falicity which enables it to act as a normal handbrake, to your understanding to I need another mechanical lickage as well?? again many thanks much appericated.
Yes my sump guard goes the whole way across the engine and gearbox. It then has side plates that come up into the wheel arches. TBH it depends what sort of rallying you want to do. If you are going to do some gravel rallies then i would say you should invest in a genuine PTS sump guard as it really does take a hammering from rocks and i have heard of cheap copies shattering. i also have another plate off the back of the sumpguard that coveres the bottom of the downpipe as this can be flattened if hit hard enough
The metal strap just holds the tank guard on at the back so that it doesnt hang too low as they fall down with rocks hitting them.
Yes for the handbrake you will need to have some cable operating as well or it will fail scruitineering and its MOT. Unless you can fake that the hydraulic system pulls the cables as well.
ah rubbish looks like i got some nore money to spend then! cars going to be tarmac spec to start off with on standard shooks as i cant afford biltens at the minute one day itll get in the forests though!!
#49: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:02 pm ---- Wee update since its been a while.
Got my new seats and finished the wiring loom just needs fitted now.
Rear beam with peugeot sport solid mounts fitted.
Front suspension fitted with Peugeot sport suspension, grp a bottom arms, brembo 2 pot calipers.
Engines to go in this weekend hopefully and then its trying to get the throttle bodies set up.
#50: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:06 pm ---- possible for you to throttle body the gti 180 engine? i thought Jamie said there's issues with that due to the electronics?
#51: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:12 pm ---- Yeh can be done ok. I have seen it done to a few cars. Can be a bit awkward with the VVT. The wiring is not a problem just not ideal for a road car as in Jamies case
#52: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:22 pm ---- Lock up the VVT... it next to useless with bodies and you can map in the lost torque.... run stand alone management and let it run the engine completely.... much better
I would be interested to know where you got your tank guard.... I am looking at making one after Ramsport let me down big time
#53: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:40 pm ---- Havent got my tank guard yet. How come ramsport let you down? I was looking at them for buying one
#54: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:34 am ---- Paid them for the guard.... waited 2 weeks, phoned them to be told problem with mould.... waited 2 weeks more and still the same outcome. Asked for a refund and still waiting for that now
#55: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:26 pm ---- Looking good matey. I was talking to a mate who rallies and he reckons if you have a twin master cylinder setup like you do then you don't need the old handbrake. The rules say you must have 2 separate braking systems incase one fails. the dual master cylinders count as two systems so currently you have 3! You can then fit a line lock in after the hyd handbrake so you can still have a parking brake. I'm not saying that what ive said is gospel, but just check it out and see.= for yourself.
#56: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:46 pm ---- Yeh cheers mate will have a look at the blue book and see what it says. That would be ace if I could take all the standard stuff away
#57: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: spud_owen, Location: ashby de la zouchPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:00 am ----
macj wrote:
Paid them for the guard.... waited 2 weeks, phoned them to be told problem with mould.... waited 2 weeks more and still the same outcome. Asked for a refund and still waiting for that now
ive heard allot of bad stories about ram sport, i know some certain top british guys wont use them because the service is poor!
#58: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:49 am ---- Check this out for good floor protection. cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot...3cb1d6de12
#59: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:09 pm ---- I already got those floor guards rady to go on. I also got the side guards as well"
That video is amazing. Would be goof to see it with a diff to see what it was like then
#60: Re: 206 GTI 180 Rally car project Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:22 am ---- Which engine mounts are needed from baker? You can buy them individually and they list the part numbers. Also, what is the part number for the vibratachnics mount? Cheers
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