#1: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:06 am ---- The tester said he tried adjusting it manually however it is just clicking and not adjusting. Please advise.
#2: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: luke079, Location: LancashirePosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:41 am ---- I'd just nip to your local scrap yard and pick a replacement up cheap enough
#3: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:05 am ----
luke079 wrote:
I'd just nip to your local scrap yard and pick a replacement up cheap enough
which part do i need and how much do they cost brand new?
I remember replacing the Dipped Beam bulbs 2 months ago. Can replacing bulbs affect allignment? Did I put the bulb the wrong way in even though the bulb looks like its seated properly.
What caused it not to adjust when the tester try to adjust it? Electrical or mechanical?
Can the bulb be adjusted vertically or horizontally or both? Can the actual light output itself can be adjusted like beam power/pattern etc? Or is it just 1 screw that does 1 adjustment?
I got 10 days to get this sorted.
#4: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:58 am ----
very_452001 wrote:
I remember replacing the Dipped Beam bulbs 2 months ago. Can replacing bulbs affect allignment? Did I put the bulb the wrong way in even though the bulb looks like its seated properly.
Yes, , so try undoing the spring clip and remove/and reseat the bulb making sure it seats flat...
very_452001 wrote:
What caused it not to adjust when the tester try to adjust it? Electrical or mechanical?
It's a combo of mechanical and electrical. If mechanical is at the end of its movement, it'll just click over if you turn it further. Check that the electrical adjuster works, but set the mechanical with the electrical in the 0 position so it can be lowered electrically as you add load...
very_452001 wrote:
Can the bulb be adjusted vertically or horizontally or both? Can the actual light output itself can be adjusted like beam power/pattern etc? Or is it just 1 screw that does 1 adjustment?
Both up/down and left/right. 1 screw is for left/right and the other one (by/at the electrical adjuster) is for up/down. Electrical only does up/down.
Beam pattern can't be adjusted. You just move the beam up/down/left/right to position the 'bend' properly.
Can't adjust power/light output other than by changing bulbs. 55/60W is IIRC the max legal for road use. Various brands/models use somewhat different glass/gas mix etc to tickle out more light.
very_452001 wrote:
I got 10 days to get this sorted.
Start with double checking the bulb seating. Check that the electrical adjuster works and isn't broken for that light... You should hear some slight whirring as someone moves the adjuster knob/wheel and you have your head down by the light , also look for any movement of the reflector.
Worst case, get a new(used) complete assembly and replace - could be that the adjustment tab has broken off from the actual reflector in the assembly... then the reflector might move freely with your fingers as you unseat/reseat the bulb...
Don't touch the screws for the properly aimed one and you can use it as a guide for a rough setting of the problem side.
#5: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:35 pm ----
mtempsch wrote:
very_452001 wrote:
I remember replacing the Dipped Beam bulbs 2 months ago. Can replacing bulbs affect allignment? Did I put the bulb the wrong way in even though the bulb looks like its seated properly.
Yes, , so try undoing the spring clip and remove/and reseat the bulb making sure it seats flat...
very_452001 wrote:
What caused it not to adjust when the tester try to adjust it? Electrical or mechanical?
It's a combo of mechanical and electrical. If mechanical is at the end of its movement, it'll just click over if you turn it further. Check that the electrical adjuster works, but set the mechanical with the electrical in the 0 position so it can be lowered electrically as you add load...
very_452001 wrote:
Can the bulb be adjusted vertically or horizontally or both? Can the actual light output itself can be adjusted like beam power/pattern etc? Or is it just 1 screw that does 1 adjustment?
Both up/down and left/right. 1 screw is for left/right and the other one (by/at the electrical adjuster) is for up/down. Electrical only does up/down.
Beam pattern can't be adjusted. You just move the beam up/down/left/right to position the 'bend' properly.
Can't adjust power/light output other than by changing bulbs. 55/60W is IIRC the max legal for road use. Various brands/models use somewhat different glass/gas mix etc to tickle out more light.
very_452001 wrote:
I got 10 days to get this sorted.
Start with double checking the bulb seating. Check that the electrical adjuster works and isn't broken for that light... You should hear some slight whirring as someone moves the adjuster knob/wheel and you have your head down by the light , also look for any movement of the reflector.
Worst case, get a new(used) complete assembly and replace - could be that the adjustment tab has broken off from the actual reflector in the assembly... then the reflector might move freely with your fingers as you unseat/reseat the bulb...
Don't touch the screws for the properly aimed one and you can use it as a guide for a rough setting of the problem side.
Ok great advice, when you say electrical do you mean the headlight adjuster control by the steering wheel? What do you mean by add load?
The screw adjuster on the headlight is for adjusting left and right and there's only 1 screw adjuster?
The reflector is the thing that covers the front part of the bulb in the headlight?
You mean by a new headlight for the worst case scenario or a certain assembly?
#6: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:07 pm ----
very_452001 wrote:
Ok great advice, when you say electrical do you mean the headlight adjuster control by the steering wheel? What do you mean by add load?
The screw adjuster on the headlight is for adjusting left and right and there's only 1 screw adjuster?
The reflector is the thing that covers the front part of the bulb in the headlight?
You mean by a new headlight for the worst case scenario or a certain assembly?
Yeah electrical adjustment is the wheel/knob on the dash which adjust the position of the post on the adjuster motor which in turn moves the reflector.
Load = passengers and luggage weighing down the rear...
There are two screws (hex holes, visible from above) One directly in the housing (for left right) and one on the adjuster motor for 'normal' up/down position (before load adjusting) see top rear in this pic:
Reflector - the mirrored cup the bulb sits in/sticks through the back of.
Worst case - headlight
(one of) + adjuster motor, but if the motor is OK it's fairly easy to transplant...
#7: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:57 pm ----
mtempsch wrote:
very_452001 wrote:
Ok great advice, when you say electrical do you mean the headlight adjuster control by the steering wheel? What do you mean by add load?
The screw adjuster on the headlight is for adjusting left and right and there's only 1 screw adjuster?
The reflector is the thing that covers the front part of the bulb in the headlight?
You mean by a new headlight for the worst case scenario or a certain assembly?
Yeah electrical adjustment is the wheel/knob on the dash which adjust the position of the post on the adjuster motor which in turn moves the reflector.
Load = passengers and luggage weighing down the rear...
There are two screws (hex holes, visible from above) One directly in the housing (for left right) and one on the adjuster motor for 'normal' up/down position (before load adjusting) see top rear in this pic:
Reflector - the mirrored cup the bulb sits in/sticks through the back of.
Worst case - headlight
(one of) + adjuster motor, but if the motor is OK it's fairly easy to transplant...
Yeah what's this part called? Is it called the adjustor motor like you said?:
Can I buy this part separately or do I have to buy the whole headlight?
Also in this pic I can only see 1 white screw. How do you access the other screw?
#8: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:00 pm ---- Update:
Now I am really confused
I adjusted the headlights using the electronic control by the steering wheel and it works. I can see the passenger dipped beam bulb going up and down on all levels including the highest level 0.
Then why the tester saying he cant manually adjust it to go down when I can bring it down with the electronic control?
Whats the point of having manual adjusting screws on the headlights when the driver can adjust them in the car interior?
Doesn't make sense.
#9: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: 20Drift, Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:19 pm ----
very_452001 wrote:
Update:
Now I am really confused
I adjusted the headlights using the electronic control by the steering wheel and it works. I can see the passenger dipped beam bulb going up and down on all levels including the highest level 0.
Then why the tester saying he cant manually adjust it to go down when I can bring it down with the electronic control?
Whats the point of having manual adjusting screws on the headlights when the driver can adjust them in the car interior?
Doesn't make sense.
That interior one is for when you've got passengers, as the rear will dip down pointing the nose up. To compensate, the driver uses the switch thing to compensate stopping other drivers being blinded
#10: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:34 pm ----
20Drift wrote:
very_452001 wrote:
Update:
Now I am really confused
I adjusted the headlights using the electronic control by the steering wheel and it works. I can see the passenger dipped beam bulb going up and down on all levels including the highest level 0.
Then why the tester saying he cant manually adjust it to go down when I can bring it down with the electronic control?
Whats the point of having manual adjusting screws on the headlights when the driver can adjust them in the car interior?
Doesn't make sense.
That interior one is for when you've got passengers, as the rear will dip down pointing the nose up. To compensate, the driver uses the switch thing to compensate stopping other drivers being blinded
-The tester wants the aim to be proper with the electrical adjustment in the 0 position, so that the electrical adjustment can be used to get the beam back down when you're carrying heavy load. Otherwise you couldn't get the beam down , and not blind other road users when you're loaded...
#11: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:20 am ---- I forgot to mention that the lens on the passenger side headlight is cleaner/whiter/clearer (looks newer) than the driver side headlight lens as the drivers side lens is dingy yellowish/less clearer with age i guess.
Does having 2 different condition lens makes a MOT fail?
Can the difference of lens trick/fool the tester in anyway or effect light path?
#12: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:57 am ----
very_452001 wrote:
I forgot to mention that the lens on the passenger side headlight is cleaner/whiter/clearer (looks newer) than the driver side headlight lens as the drivers side lens is dingy yellowish/less clearer with age i guess.
Does having 2 different condition lens makes a MOT fail?
Can the difference of lens trick/fool the tester in anyway or effect light path?
It shouldn't do, it will only affect the light output, and that will be minimal.
You could follow this guide and make sure the adjuster is seated properly on the reflector.. You never know, someone may have dicked about with the lights in the past.
Once you have got the adjuster working correctly, you need a wall to help align the headlamp. Ideally to do the job properly you need the correct test equipment, but if you get it somewhere near, then the test station might make the finer adjustments.
In the end it should look something like this
#13: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:56 am ----
macca1411 wrote:
very_452001 wrote:
I forgot to mention that the lens on the passenger side headlight is cleaner/whiter/clearer (looks newer) than the driver side headlight lens as the drivers side lens is dingy yellowish/less clearer with age i guess.
Does having 2 different condition lens makes a MOT fail?
Can the difference of lens trick/fool the tester in anyway or effect light path?
It shouldn't do, it will only affect the light output, and that will be minimal.
You could follow this guide and make sure the adjuster is seated properly on the reflector.. You never know, someone may have dicked about with the lights in the past.
Once you have got the adjuster working correctly, you need a wall to help align the headlamp. Ideally to do the job properly you need the correct test equipment, but if you get it somewhere near, then the test station might make the finer adjustments.
In the end it should look something like this
Is the adjuster the metal stick holding the reflector? Is there pics of adjuster/reflector or a diagram showing the assembly as I don't know what is what.
Im sure its on properly cause it was moving up/down last night when I controlled it electronically from inside the car or am I doing something wrong?
#14: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:28 am ----
very_452001 wrote:
Is the adjuster the metal stick holding the reflector? Is there pics of adjuster/reflector or a diagram showing the assembly as I don't know what is what.
Im sure its on properly cause it was moving up/down last night when I controlled it electronically from inside the car or am I doing something wrong?
The adjuster is the pin with ball-head sticking out of the adjuster motor unit. It slots into a slot in a, IIRC, round plastic piece which in turn is fastened to the back of the reflector...
Since you see the beam move as you change settings on the adjuster (assuming snoothly both down, back up and back down again) that means the adjuster workers and is attached to the reflector which also moves properly...
As you say one of the lights is newer... Is it the misaligned one that is newer? (sorry, forgot which side you said initially and get terminally confused by the British NS / OS usage, combined w/ that you drive on the wrong side , anyways)
But if it's the newer one that is misaligned I see 2 more potential sources of the problem:
1) Aftermarket part not quite the same as Pug original
. Had a pair of angel eyes that exhibited the same issue. The post on the adjuster would have needed to be ~5-8 mm longer for it to work properly on those lights (or the actual adjuster mount the same amount further forwards in the light). In the end went with a improvised manual solution using a machine screw, nuts and washers going through a plate covering the adjuster mounting hole.
2) Might your car have been in a collision involving that corner? If so the replaced/reshaped metal might not have ended up back in the exact position, making the light sit pointed slightly upward where it normally would sit level, and the adjuster doesn't have enough range to correct it...
#15: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:05 am ----
mtempsch wrote:
very_452001 wrote:
Is the adjuster the metal stick holding the reflector? Is there pics of adjuster/reflector or a diagram showing the assembly as I don't know what is what.
Im sure its on properly cause it was moving up/down last night when I controlled it electronically from inside the car or am I doing something wrong?
The adjuster is the pin with ball-head sticking out of the adjuster motor unit. It slots into a slot in a, IIRC, round plastic piece which in turn is fastened to the back of the reflector...
Since you see the beam move as you change settings on the adjuster (assuming snoothly both down, back up and back down again) that means the adjuster workers and is attached to the reflector which also moves properly...
As you say one of the lights is newer... Is it the misaligned one that is newer? (sorry, forgot which side you said initially and get terminally confused by the British NS / OS usage, combined w/ that you drive on the wrong side , anyways)
But if it's the newer one that is misaligned I see 2 more potential sources of the problem:
1) Aftermarket part not quite the same as Pug original
. Had a pair of angel eyes that exhibited the same issue. The post on the adjuster would have needed to be ~5-8 mm longer for it to work properly on those lights (or the actual adjuster mount the same amount further forwards in the light). In the end went with a improvised manual solution using a machine screw, nuts and washers going through a plate covering the adjuster mounting hole.
2) Might your car have been in a collision involving that corner? If so the replaced/reshaped metal might not have ended up back in the exact position, making the light sit pointed slightly upward where it normally would sit level, and the adjuster doesn't have enough range to correct it...
Its moving properly like you said so I don't understand why I failed MOT?
Yes its the misaligned headlight which is the newer one. It looks stock to me no angel lights or anything like that.
#16: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: TelaKeppi, Location: FinlandPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:52 am ---- I replaced my aged headlights with Magneti Marelli OEM replacements and they aim too high. Even with electrical adjust set to 0 and manual adjustment as low as it goes (when all the way down, it starts to click). For sure it will fail the MOT this fall, but there's no other way to ajust it but drill the fixing holes larger. Besides, the plastic feels really cheap and when I transfered the motors from the old headlights, both locking clips broke off from the new headlights. Stick with Valeo or original.
#17: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:03 pm ----
TelaKeppi wrote:
I replaced my aged headlights with Magneti Marelli OEM replacements and they aim too high. Even with electrical adjust set to 0 and manual adjustment as low as it goes (when all the way down, it starts to click). For sure it will fail the MOT this fall, but there's no other way to ajust it but drill the fixing holes larger. Besides, the plastic feels really cheap and when I transfered the motors from the old headlights, both locking clips broke off from the new headlights. Stick with Valeo or original.
how do i tell if i have official peugeot headlights or not?
#18: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:32 pm ----
very_452001 wrote:
Its moving properly like you said so I don't understand why I failed MOT?
Yes its the misaligned headlight which is the newer one. It looks stock to me no angel lights or anything like that.
I don't know the British MOT rules, but the Swedish equivalent wants the lights to be aimed properly (down 1.2% or something like that) with the electrical adjuster in the 0 position. This then allows you to lower the lights further with the electrical adjuster as you add passengers and cargo, dropping the rear and raising the front...
If I was you, I'd probably be looking for a used housing+motor (matching) from a scrappie - and look closely for signs of collision repairs when removing the current unit and putting in the replacement... If there's signs of repairs, odds are that even another unit, working perfectly in another car, might not work any better. If it's not your only available transportation you might want to remove the existing and have a look before buying anything.
If there are imperfect repairs that causes the misalignment, then enlargening mounting holes or drilling new ones, so that the top of the light can be mounted more forward, tilting the light down, might be the only way (short of a bodyshop straightening/correcting the corner)
That can of course lead to not so good alignment to the body panels, but it'd be the cheapest route.
#19: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:00 pm ----
mtempsch wrote:
very_452001 wrote:
Its moving properly like you said so I don't understand why I failed MOT?
Yes its the misaligned headlight which is the newer one. It looks stock to me no angel lights or anything like that.
I don't know the British MOT rules, but the Swedish equivalent wants the lights to be aimed properly (down 1.2% or something like that) with the electrical adjuster in the 0 position. This then allows you to lower the lights further with the electrical adjuster as you add passengers and cargo, dropping the rear and raising the front...
If I was you, I'd probably be looking for a used housing+motor (matching) from a scrappie - and look closely for signs of collision repairs when removing the current unit and putting in the replacement... If there's signs of repairs, odds are that even another unit, working perfectly in another car, might not work any better. If it's not your only available transportation you might want to remove the existing and have a look before buying anything.
If there are imperfect repairs that causes the misalignment, then enlargening mounting holes or drilling new ones, so that the top of the light can be mounted more forward, tilting the light down, might be the only way (short of a bodyshop straightening/correcting the corner)
That can of course lead to not so good alignment to the body panels, but it'd be the cheapest route.
I dont think there's been a collision botch up repair as this car pass the MOT 1st time last year at the same MOT station by the same tester and during that time I didnt change or modify anything except replacing the dipped beam bulb.
You mean look for a adjuster motor? What do you mean by housing, is it the headlight without the lens? Last edited by very_452001 on Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:28 pm; edited 1 time in total
#20: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:21 pm ----
very_452001 wrote:
I dont think there's been a collision botch up repair as this car pass the MOT 1st time last year at the same MOT station by the same tester and during that time I didnt change or modify anything except replacing the dipped beam bulb.
Ooookay... Given that, my guesses would go to
1) not seated properly so that the filament isn't in the proper focus spot, or
2) faulty bulb with the filament in the wrong spot inside the bulb, resulting in the same as 1) even when properly seated.
What brand bulbs did you use?
The big name brands have such good QA that it'd be a real longshot (could still be though), but noname/super this/mega that/china specials probably don't...
You could try switching the bulbs between the lights (while parked in front of a wall and make a mark/tape the positions of the beams on the wall before swapping and see what happen. While they're out you could also place them side by side and see if there's any noticeable difference in filament positioning... (and as always, only touch the metal base/connectors - never the glass!)
#21: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:23 pm ---- update:
I took the bulb cover off at the back of the headlight and notice something loose when I press down with my fingers as explained in the following pics:
Is that metal round tip suppose to click in the white circle plastic thing? Cause its not loose on the other headlight and I can see on that good headlight that the metal round tip is in.
#22: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:33 pm ----
very_452001 wrote:
update:
Is that metal round tip suppose to click in the white circle plastic thing? Cause its not loose on the other headlight and I can see on that good headlight that the metal round tip is in.
Hard to say, it's been a while since I played with my headlights, but that ball and socket might be a fixed pivot point that holds the reflector in the proper position (together with the 2 adjustment points (up/down and left/right)
and not being connected may well be why the reflector won't point low enough...
Definitely looks like it should be pushed in there...
#23: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:18 pm ----
mtempsch wrote:
very_452001 wrote:
update:
Is that metal round tip suppose to click in the white circle plastic thing? Cause its not loose on the other headlight and I can see on that good headlight that the metal round tip is in.
Hard to say, it's been a while since I played with my headlights, but that ball and socket might be a fixed pivot point that holds the reflector in the proper position (together with the 2 adjustment points (up/down and left/right)
and not being connected may well be why the reflector won't point low enough...
Definitely looks like it should be pushed in there...
Ok I shall try that. I don't seem to have the strength to push it in from a awkward angle so it looks like I have to take the headlight out.
Is there a picture guide on how to take out the headlight on a 206 1.4 8v TU3A Engine 2006?
#24: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:28 pm ---- Off the top of my head, you remove the trim that is just below the headlamp, sometimes the clips break but they are pennies from the dealer, and then 3 bolts hold the headlamp in place. Only takes about 5 minutes and that includes looking for the tools and walking to the car. I think the tools needed are a flat head screwdriver to remove the rivets for the upper grill, 10mm socket and ratchet for the headlamp bolts, a torx bit, can't remember what size for the screw hidden behind the badge. Might have missed something, been a while since I took a headlamp out.
Use the guide I linked to earlier to remove and replace the adjuster. It might help if you wind it back in a bit while it's out of the headlamp and make sure that when you turn the screw the ball moves, otherwise you will need to take it out again to replace the adjuster.
#25: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:22 am ----
macca1411 wrote:
Off the top of my head, you remove the trim that is just below the headlamp, sometimes the clips break but they are pennies from the dealer, and then 3 bolts hold the headlamp in place. Only takes about 5 minutes and that includes looking for the tools and walking to the car. I think the tools needed are a flat head screwdriver to remove the rivets for the upper grill, 10mm socket and ratchet for the headlamp bolts, a torx bit, can't remember what size for the screw hidden behind the badge. Might have missed something, been a while since I took a headlamp out.
Use the guide I linked to earlier to remove and replace the adjuster. It might help if you wind it back in a bit while it's out of the headlamp and make sure that when you turn the screw the ball moves, otherwise you will need to take it out again to replace the adjuster.
Thanks there must be a picture guide on these forums right?
You mean buy a new adjuster motor and replace or keep existing one?
Wheres that link as I cant seem to find it.
#26: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:28 am ----
very_452001 wrote:
Thanks there must be a picture guide on these forums right?
It's self explanatory once you look at the car. Shouldn't need pictures. There may be a guide on here but like you, I can't be bothered searching
very_452001 wrote:
You mean buy a new adjuster motor and replace or keep existing one?
If the ball doesn't move when you turn the screw, the adjuster will either need replacing or possibly fixing. You may be able to get the worm to catch again. You won't know until it's off.
very_452001 wrote:
Wheres that link as I cant seem to find it.
Page 1. Links are highlighted in blue
macca1411 wrote:
You could follow this guide and make sure the adjuster is seated properly on the reflector.
#27: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:31 am ---- Don't see a reason for getting a new adjuster since your's obviously moves - just that your reflector appears to be out of alignment due to that loose ball joint... i wouldn't buy anything until I had the ball joint joined back up and checked how the light falls then.
To remove the light from the car - follow the start of this howto until you see the two bolts holding the bottom of each light. Then disconnect all the electrical connections, undo the 2 lower, and the single bolt at the top...
As the howto says - be prepared to visit your nearest PSA dealer to get a few clips for the strip below the lights. They have a good chance to break as you try to unclip the - but they're cheap....
#28: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: TelaKeppi, Location: FinlandPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:40 pm ---- The smaller ball and socket in the picture is the mechanism that tilts the beam sideways, replacing the motor wont do it. It's part of the headlight.
#29: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:23 pm ---- update:
Yeah got the headlight out and managed to put that metal round tip into the white circle socket. I haven't touch the motor adjuster as you say its already working. Booked MOT retest next Tuesday being confident that this fix will pass the retest. Many thanks for all advice.
#30: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: ukskater01, Location: sutton surrey/welwyn garden cityPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:42 pm ---- Pretty sure clipping it back in should have sorted it. I bought some phase 2's off here and when I got them everything was moving inside!
Took a long time and some swearing but I managed to clip everything back together. Hope you get it passed now.
#31: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:42 pm ----
very_452001 wrote:
update:
Yeah got the headlight out and managed to put that metal round tip into the white circle socket. I haven't touch the motor adjuster as you say its already working. Booked MOT retest next Tuesday being confident that this fix will pass the retest. Many thanks for all advice.
Checked it by comparing against the 'good' side parked facing a wall? If it looks reasonably similar (or somewhat lower (since the MOT guy turned it fully down) you should be good.
#32: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:38 am ----
mtempsch wrote:
very_452001 wrote:
update:
Yeah got the headlight out and managed to put that metal round tip into the white circle socket. I haven't touch the motor adjuster as you say its already working. Booked MOT retest next Tuesday being confident that this fix will pass the retest. Many thanks for all advice.
Checked it by comparing against the 'good' side parked facing a wall? If it looks reasonably similar (or somewhat lower (since the MOT guy turned it fully down) you should be good.
Yeah looks similar now. What is the default setting for the electronic headlight control by the steering wheel for everyday normal driving and what setting will the tester use to align and ajust the headlight manually?
#33: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:58 am ----
very_452001 wrote:
Yeah looks similar now. What is the default setting for the electronic headlight control by the steering wheel for everyday normal driving and what setting will the tester use to align and ajust the headlight manually?
From the owners handbook
MOT Testers Manual wrote:
Where driver’s beam aim controls are fitted the beam aim should be tested without altering the control setting except where this would result in failure for beam aim being too low.
In such cases the beam aim should be re-checked with the control set at its ‘highest’ position.
#34: Re: Failed MOT today: Nearside Headlamp aim too high [1.8] Author: very_452001, Location: BirminghamPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:50 am ---- Update:
Pass my mot re-test on Tuesday. Many thanks for all the advice and info. Case closed.
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-The tester wants the aim to be proper with the electrical adjustment in the 0 position, so that the electrical adjustment can be used to get the beam back down when you're carrying heavy load. Otherwise you couldn't get the beam down , and not blind other road users when you're loaded...
, anyways)
