#1: Wishbone Fitting Problems Author: marone, Location: Leeds, UKPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:13 pm ---- Hi All
I'm attempting to replace the offside wishbone but I'm having some difficulty getting the replacement to fit into the subframe. I cannot seem to get the far side bush to slide into its 'slot'. I am able to align the middle bush fine.
I've measured the gap between the upper and lower subframe and can see a 2mm difference between the outer and middle bush 'slots' - is this normal? I can appreciate its meant to be a tight fit, but at the moment I just cant see a way of getting it in.
I've read the 2 guides that are in the 'How To...' section, I also have the Haynes manual. I've tried fitting the bushes before attaching the ball joint and I've also tried it with the ball joint in first, but so far I'm having no luck.
Does anyone have any pointers?
FYI: its a 206 180 and I'm trying to fit the 'N' rated wishbones bought from Peugeot Sport - if that makes any difference.
#2: Re: Wishbone Fitting Problems Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:24 pm ---- They can be difficult to insert with the bushes remaining vertical. When the subframe is off the car it's easy! It's just because the suspension strut is in the way that there is a problem a the arm isn't inserted horizontally.
Is there a difference between Group N parts and standard items. I cant see them being any different to standard parts - Group N was known as showroom class!
#3: Re: Wishbone Fitting Problems Author: marone, Location: Leeds, UKPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:16 am ---- I think the only difference is the centre material used within the bushes.
I'll be giving it another go today. Hopefully I'll have more joy!
#4: Re: Wishbone Fitting Problems Author: marone, Location: Leeds, UKPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:26 pm ---- Turning into a bit of a nightmare. Still cannot get the new arm fitted, the outer bush looks to be about a millimetre too wide to fit in the subframe. All I end up doing is wedging in the bush at an angle.
Also confirmed that its the uprated arms, both bushes are metal rather than one being rubber.
#5: Re: Wishbone Fitting Problems Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:08 pm ---- Hammer and a piece of wood to knock it in? Does the bush protrude at all?
#6: Re: Wishbone Fitting Problems Author: marone, Location: Leeds, UKPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:11 pm ---- Doesn't seem to, no. Its the same width as the middle bush, which is the same metal bush used in the normal arms
#7: Re: Wishbone Fitting Problems Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:12 pm ---- Height wise? Post a pic if you can, side by side. Who pushed the bush into the arm?
#8: Re: Wishbone Fitting Problems Author: marone, Location: Leeds, UKPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:22 pm ---- Sorry I mean height rather than width.
Its a whole new arm from Peugeot Sport so it would have been done in the factory I guess. I'll try and get a photo up.
I'll probably be slated for this and I'm not suggesting other do this... but the subframe was just that little too tight to get the rear bush in (we're taking a single mm so not that much but enough to cause a headache).
In the end I applied a light coating of moly grease to the metal centre bushing. I also wedged a bit of old scaffold pipe into the gap of the subframe to prise it open a touch. It was still a tight fit but managed to get it in there and aligned correctly.
Bolts are on and fully torqued up. Just the test drive to do now then its onto the nearside, though I think I'll leave that until tomorrow as the weather is taking a turn for the worse.
Thanks for your pointers gents.
#10: Re: Wishbone Fitting Problems Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:06 pm ---- Yes, these can be a nightmare to get into place. I have done a few and never really found the ideal order to get them in or a garaunteed technique that makes it easy.
I don't think prising the subframe slightly will hurt and putting the bolt in and tightening up will put it all back inplace.
Get a four wheel alignment done once the work is complete.
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