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#1: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:06 pm
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Hi guys,

Both my headlights are shot and need replacing.

Thinking about these as they aren't much more than standard lights

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301184744687

However they state they are for 1998-2009 models
But I thought 2003 the lights changed? Mine is a phase 2 and I was certain phase one lights wouldn't fit. However this add doesn't specify

They are depo headlights so hoping for quality.

Thanks in advance

#2: Re: Projector headlights Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:50 pm
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depo light is no good....They are taiwan's brand and they tends to leak water in...

#3: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:51 pm
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Ah don't want that! Thanks for the advice. I'll keep looking
For a better brand.

#4: Re: Projector headlights Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:53 pm
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James3107 wrote:
Ah don't want that! Thanks for the advice. I'll keep looking
For a better brand.

could just pick up some used crystal light?

#5: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:59 pm
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It's looking as if I might have to. I wanted projectors though as think it makes the 206 front end a lot more modern

#6: Re: Projector headlights Author: Vexs, Location: London PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:06 pm
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They provide a terrible light output though, might want to bare that in mind to.
Have an old set of frosted you can have for the price of P&P if you're in desperate need of some as a temp, if not they're going in the bin.

#7: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:15 pm
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Are they easy to retro fit? I thought the wiring was completely different.

If the light output is that terrible then I won't
Bother with projectors. As I do a lot of night driving and rely heavily on the lights,

Will a hid kit not fit with projectors?

#8: Re: Projector headlights Author: America, Location: Catania, Italy PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:21 pm
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I put some hid's in my projectors, I think they are H7s if I remember. Between my foglights and the hid's I never have to use my high beams on dark nights on the twisty hilly roads around where I live. The headlights were on the car when I bought it they look a lot like the link.... Never have had a problem with water getting in them.
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#9: Re: Projector headlights Author: Vexs, Location: London PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:24 pm
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Just seen your's are H7's and mine are H4's not sure if your could retro fit, you would have to find out. Offer stands though if you need them, they're only taking up space.
I'm sure you could, but a £50 fine and VDRS isn't worth the hassle if you ask me.

#10: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:28 pm
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Thanks I'll google to see if retro fitting is doable. And I thought hid were legal in projectors just not in reflectors. Which I would never do.

I just like the look of projectors but want to keep it as OEM as I can don't really want angel eyes.

#11: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:30 pm
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America wrote:
I put some hid's in my projectors, I think they are H7s if I remember. Between my foglights and the hid's I never have to use my high beams on dark nights on the twisty hilly roads around where I live. The headlights were on the car when I bought it they look a lot like the link.... Never have had a problem with water getting in them.

Sounds exactly what I want! I do pizza deliveries and a lot
Of unlit roads and sick of the poor lighting of the halogen units.
Now they've broken I've a good excuse to upgrade to projectors.
Mot all go okay?

#12: Re: Projector headlights Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:33 pm
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you can fit crystal on old 206 (need some tweak on the wiring), don't know if you can fit frosted on new 206. As the headlamp system is not the same.

I think crystal use 1 bulb for dip light and 1 bulb for main beam; frosted use the same bulb for dip and main beam

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#13: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:40 pm
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Yeah crystal has seperate h7 bulbs for dipped and main beam. Nobodies probably tried it. Why would
You downgrade from crystal to frosted anyway.

#14: Re: Projector headlights Author: Vexs, Location: London PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:40 pm
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For HID's your car is supposed to have an auto leveling system and also a headlight washer system I believe for them to be considered legal, and of course to be in cased in a projector.

#15: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:48 pm
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Vexs wrote:
For HID's your car is supposed to have an auto leveling system and also a headlight washer system I believe for them to be considered legal, and of course to be in cased in a projector.

How strict is that rule? I can't see the police checking for auto levelling on a regular stop? Presumably just the projector casing which I would have anyway. I can't stand looking at hids in reflectors when they are coming at you head on and certainly wouldn't subject anyone else
To that by doing it myself.

Mot isn't really an issue as my mechanic wouldn't bother about washers or self levelling as
Long as they didn't blind oncoming traffic.

#16: Re: Projector headlights Author: Vexs, Location: London PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:58 pm
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All depends on how fussy your local plod are to be honest. In London they seem to be pulling people quite a lot for it, even as going as far as sitting past the brow of hills to catch people out.
Realistically any decent MOT'er should be failing you on it, but Dodgy Dave does like a drink Laughing

#17: Re: Projector headlights Author: America, Location: Catania, Italy PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:03 pm
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My projectors passed the Italian "Revisione" with the hid's last year.

#18: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:10 pm
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Here in Yorkshire they're pretty laid back to be fair, and it's hardly a danger up to the vehicles that some people drive. It'll all be fully declared on insurance.

So now it's pretty much impossible to retro fit hid's? As where
Possible can you get auto levellers and washers if that make
Of car doesn't have hids as standard or an option? Pretty sure that 206's didn't? Although I could be wrong. Seen plenty of them with clear hids fitted though. Admittedly most are still I'm reflector headlights.

Shame on you few! Giving the 206 a chav status.

#19: Re: Projector headlights Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, Sweden PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:40 am
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Seabook wrote:
you can fit crystal on old 206 (need some tweak on the wiring), don't know if you can fit frosted on new 206. As the headlamp system is not the same.

I think crystal use 1 bulb for dip light and 1 bulb for main beam; frosted use the same bulb for dip and main beam


Correct.
Phase 1/Frosted => H4, one bulb w/ 2 filaments, only one on at a time as the single bulb can't take the heat from both filaments.
Phase 2/Crystals=> H7, two bulbs w/ 1 filament each, dipped remains on along with high.

Just as you with a relay can keep the dipped on along with the high beam when going from frosted to crystals, you could use a relay to cut off the supply to the dipped when the high turns on if you switch from crystals to frosted...

If the car doesn't have both type of connectors on the loom, you'd need a physical adaptor (like you need a mains plug adaptor when using UK electrical stuff on the continent)

IIRC it can also be done (both ways) w/o relays by changing the COM module and a BSI settings tweak.

But as James307 said, why downgrade - it's not like crystals are expensive/hard to find...

#20: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:21 am
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mtempsch wrote:
But as James307 said, why downgrade - it's not like crystals are expensive/hard to find...

Exactly. If I can't get decent projectors I'm just going to buy some very good condition crystals. The lights currently work they are screwed together though and one isn't secured very well as all the clips have snapped and I've soldered them together. But it's poor plastic for soldering and seems to blister under heat.

I really want devil eyes but they seem impossible to find with a h7 fitment so it's a no go on them. Only others are angel eyes and I'm not sure if the angel eyes are gonna be led or halogen. Halogen angel eyes will look terrible with hid lights and I don't think you can change the bulbs in them.

#21: Re: Projector headlights Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:24 am
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James3107 wrote:

Shame on you few! Giving the 206 a chav status.

206 is just a cheap bargain basement runabout that reputation has been ruined by far to many youths bastardising them with tacky / silly mods & running up the insurance premiums by writing them of.

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#22: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:35 am
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MrBSI wrote:
James3107 wrote:

Shame on you few! Giving the 206 a chav status.

206 is just a cheap bargain basement runabout that has reputation has been ruined by far to many youths bastardising them with tacky / silly mods & running up the insurance premiums by writing them of.

Rip speed and halfords are to blame

#23: Re: Projector headlights Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:36 am
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James3107 wrote:

Rip speed and halfords are to blame

Idiots running out of Saxo's to ruin are to blame, there have been plenty of examples on here over the years Wink

#24: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:40 am
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MrBSI wrote:
James3107 wrote:

Shame on you few! Giving the 206 a chav status.

206 is just a cheap bargain basement runabout that has reputation has been ruined by far to many youths bastardising them with tacky / silly mods & running up the insurance premiums by writing them of.

Rip speed and halfords are to blame

#25: Re: Projector headlights Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:43 am
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James3107 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
James3107 wrote:

Shame on you few! Giving the 206 a chav status.

206 is just a cheap bargain basement runabout that has reputation has been ruined by far to many youths bastardising them with tacky / silly mods & running up the insurance premiums by writing them of.

Rip speed and halfords are to blame

Really, they are not Rolling Eyes

#26: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:58 am
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No comment necessary

#27: Re: Projector headlights Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:05 am
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Seen much worse on here in the past Laughing

#28: Re: Projector headlights Author: James3107 PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:18 am
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Haha I'm sure you have.

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