#1: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: dave206uk, Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 11:38 am ---- A friend of mine has a 51 plate Peugeot 206 and the 12V lighter socket is only live when the ignition is on.
I understand the logic behind this (so the battery is not drained by devices left plugged in accidentally) but we would like to be able to leave our phones charging locked inside the car at festivals this summer, so we need the socket to remain live at all times.
I understand that this can be done by changing a fuse (see thread below) but can anyone tell me how to configure this?
#2: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: Sim, Location: West CountryPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 1:19 pm ---- Here you go: www.peugeot206cc.co.uk...d4#p104458
#3: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: dave206uk, Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:36 pm ---- Thanks muchly.
This is the relevant information for anyone who finds this thread subsequently.
cheekee wrote:
cigarette lighter - Controlled by 2 fuses in the passenger compartment Fuse 23A + Fuse 23B). One via ignition and one directly from car battery. Check to see if they have blown. Otherwise possibly a dead cigarette lighter. Not expensive or difficult to replace
#4: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Sun May 17, 2015 5:35 pm ---- The fuses mentioned in the link are for a pre-plex. With your car being a 51 plate it could be pre-plex or multi-plex. If multi-plex it's fuse MF07 in the engine bay and F22 in the passenger compartment.
#5: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: dave206uk, Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:26 pm ---- Thanks macca1411 - it turns out that my friend's 51/2002 206 has a multi-plex loom.
We tried removing fuse F22 in the passenger compartment (and got no power to the 12V socket when the ignition is on or off) but there is no alternative position to move it to.
We then looked for fuse MF07 in the engine bay (next to the battery). None of the fuses are marked MF, they just have the number. Each fuse is marked and there is a 7 but there is no fuse there, just space for a fuse. There isn't even a socket for a fuse as if it has been removed, there isn't even a socket.
What next?
#6: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: dave206uk, Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:07 am ---- Bump. Any help with this is highly appreciated.
#7: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:46 am ---- The answer is in the thread I linked to
EuroPeugeot wrote:
Possible to do this for MUX?
Lee wrote:
No.
Needs rewiring
#8: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: dave206uk, Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:38 am ---- Sorry, must have missed that.
In the same thread, a few posts later you say:
macca1411 wrote:
EuroPeugeot wrote:
Possible to do this for MUX?
My plexed already has switched live cigarette lighter socket.
Do you mean there is a toggle switch somewhere?
Or if I need to rewire it, would I just pull the socket out somehow and connect the live instead of the ignition cable? Or would I need to source a live connection from elsewhere?
Thanks
#9: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:59 am ---- The only way on a multi-plexed is to run a fused feed from another source. You could take this from the ignition switch as this is probably the most substantial wire inside the car and saves running a wire through the bulkhead to the engine bay. Just make sure that you solder the connection and insulate it properly.
It's currently wired Battery - engine bay fuse box (MF07) - ignition switch - passenger fuse box (F22) - accessory socket. As far as I am aware there is no switch and no option in the BSI to make it a constant 12v
#10: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: dave206uk, Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:27 am ---- OK thanks.
I am fairly competent with electronics but I have never worked on a car before.
When you say the ignition switch, I assume this is the thing attached to the barrel where I insert the key to start the engine?
Do you know what gauge wire I will need?
I guess I use the same fuse as is on the existing line?
Thanks
#11: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: dave206uk, Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:47 pm ---- I have taken the plastic off from underneath the steering wheel. To save me going over everything with a multimeter, do you know which loom I can find the relevant live from the engine bay fuse box? And it's colour?
I have taken the plastic off from underneath the steering wheel. To save me going over everything with a multimeter, do you know which loom I can find the relevant live from the engine bay fuse box? And it's colour?
According to Diagram 2 here, it looks to be a black wire marked BF07, going to pin 1 on a 3-pin connector on the ignition switch.
The upstream fuse is 30A - if you use same gauge wire as BF07, then 30A is OK. Existing lighter fuse is 20A - if you use the gauge wire as that what currently goes to the lighter, then no higher than 20A.
Basic wiring and fusing - use wire heavy enough to not cause too big voltage drop for the planned load, then fuse so that an overload can't cause the wire to heat up enough to be a hazard, or fuse according to the expected draw of the load - whichever is lowest.
#13: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: Gumpy54, Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 2:44 pm ---- sorry if I misunderstand, but can't you move the fuse as you can with the radio fuse to make it permenent live?
#14: Re: Cigarette lighter live/ignition fuse Author: dave206uk, Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:40 am ----
Gumpy54 wrote:
sorry if I misunderstand, but can't you move the fuse as you can with the radio fuse to make it permenent live?
Apparently not (according to discussion above) but if you can tell me how to do it then that would be gerat...
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