#1: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Stoo, Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:29 pm ---- So... my girlfriend's 206 passed an MOT a week ago. Yesterday I noticed the dipped headlight bulb had gone, so I said I'd replace it for her. Since then my life has descended into gloom and my credibility with said girlfriend is hanging on a cliff edge!
First I got a replacement bulb from Halfords (40mins through shopper traffic), only to find it's the wrong one as the car has separate dipped and beam bulbs. Before making the return trip I thought I'd just check the other bulbs: One sidelight out, one tail light and two rear numberplate bulbs not working. This is on a car that just passed an MOT. Hmmm... suspicious. But I trekked back to Halfords, looked up the car registration on their computer and picked up all the bulbs. Only to find when I got back that I'd now got two wrong headlight bulbs!
First I replaced the tail light and found it wasnt the bulb. So where is the fuse? Did some googling. Not listed for the box beneath the steering column or the one beside the battery. Is there another fusebox? Found the headlight fuses, they were ok.
Next replaced sidelight. Success!
My replacement headlight bulbs were the wrong ones, so thought I'd swap dud with the working one to test if the problem was the bulb or not. Didn't work. Switched them back. Now neither worked.
Whilst doing this I noticed a suspicious noise, perhaps electrical shorting, whilst the ignition was on. Is this a 206 feature? Seemed to come from a small box. (Goodness knows what it is, the engine bay seems stuffed with odd little boxes and hoses all over the place!) This one is in a prominent position in the middle, above the engine. It has an electrical input at the front, is about the size of two cigarette packets stuck back to back, and has VDO stamped on the side.
The stakes are high. Anyone got an idea how to sort this out before my girlfriend catches on that changing a lightbulb is about the limit of my car maintenance skills?
#2: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:11 pm ---- Might be easier to just get a new girlfriend
#3: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: David1156, Location: East LondonPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:04 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
Might be easier to just get a new girlfriend
Agreed
#4: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Carlos_WR1, Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:51 am ---- What model of 206 is it as that might help people to comment/help you out.
#5: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Stoo, Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:41 am ---- Hi Carlos. It's a 206 Verve, 06 plate. I've got the headlights working now, but the drivers side tail light and front sidelight, and the two number plate lights are all out. The tail light and sidelight definitely have good bulbs, but cant find a fuse for them. (It's not listed in the fuse descriptions in the manual.) Are there fuses elsewhere?
#6: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Sim, Location: West CountryPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:55 am ---- How many boyfriends does it take to change a light bulb?
#7: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Stoo, Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:20 am ---- Blimey! How do I tell if the car is multiplexed?
Thanks
Stuart
#8: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:35 am ---- If it has a flattish/fat audio control on right side of column, radio is screen-less and a proper rectangle and clip on airbag .. MUX
#9: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Stoo, Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:42 am ---- If I disconnect the battery will I need a code for the radio?
-Stuart
#10: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:58 am ---- Nope, no radio code to worry about as its multiplexed.
Radio is VIN coded to BSI unit.
#11: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Stoo, Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:58 am ---- Soft reset didnt do the trick.
The throttle body unit in this car is quite noisy. With the ignition on, engine not running, it gives out a high pitched whine, and a noise like the hard drive on a computer working overtime. Is that the same on other people's 206s?
#12: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Sim, Location: West CountryPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:05 am ----
Stoo wrote:
The throttle body unit in this car is quite noisy. With the ignition on, engine not running, it gives out a high pitched whine, and a noise like the hard drive on a computer working overtime. Is that the same on other people's 206s?
If it doesn't last an infinity, it's the fuel pump priming the filter, every peugeot does it
Stoo wrote:
Hi Carlos. It's a 206 Verve, 06 plate. I've got the headlights working now, but the drivers side tail light and front sidelight, and the two number plate lights are all out. The tail light and sidelight definitely have good bulbs, but cant find a fuse for them. (It's not listed in the fuse descriptions in the manual.) Are there fuses elsewhere?
All cars after October 2001 are multiplexed (as Beginner's guide tells)
Tail and side lights on muxed 206 don't have a fuse anymore, they are all governed by the BSI. Have you had faults read?
#13: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Stoo, Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:46 am ---- Thanks Sim. The noise stops soon after the ignition is switched off, but runs continuously with the ignition on. Just tried it for 25mins, still going.
Taking it to the local independent Peugeot specialist in the morning, so hopefully they will read the faults. Over the phone he was puzzled why he couldnt look up the relevant fuse, so perhaps not such a Peugeot specialist after all?
#14: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Sim, Location: West CountryPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:06 am ----
Stoo wrote:
Thanks Sim. The noise stops soon after the ignition is switched off, but runs continuously with the ignition on. Just tried it for 25mins, still going.
That's not good. Video?
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Taking it to the local independent Peugeot specialist in the morning, so hopefully they will read the faults. Over the phone he was puzzled why he couldnt look up the relevant fuse, so perhaps not such a Peugeot specialist after all?
MAF sensor needs replacement? Fault reading should reveal.
I've been driving my HDi with shot MAF sensor since ever, and had to change it only during remap, otherwise the defaults that the ECU falls back to are safe for standard operation. Thanks @pro_steve for when I picked his brains
#17: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Stoo, Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:04 am ---- Thanks. I'll see what comes of it. Car doesn't seem to have any performance issues as yet, so hopefully the MAF sensor can stay as it is.
Just noticed you're in Bristol. Me too. I'm just about to take the car to Bristol2CVs, Hampton Rd, Redland. Haven't used them before, they just came up on Google as Peugeot independents. Anyone you'd recommend?
#18: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Sim, Location: West CountryPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:14 am ---- Alrigh' me ole neighbrr?
You can bring the car over so I can read the fault codes (got PP2000 here), PM me
I used local garages for my Pugs, until one day I understood the fact they keep telling me to scrap the car is because they don't want to deal with Peugeots
Can't blame them, when splitting ball joint involves two people and a scaffolding pole Hence resorted to use own head and a driveway (not that I pried the lower arm with my head mind )
Been fixing car up myself with the help of this amazing forum knowledge, no problems since; had it at Robins'n'Day once when I ran out of ideas with suspension, they didn't find anything certain, and again through this forum I fixed it eventually
#19: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Stoo, Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:01 am ---- Ah! Wish I'd noticed the Brizzle connection earlier. Just dropped the car off this morning. See what they say.
#20: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Sim, Location: West CountryPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:05 am ---- Is that the place where staff were looking for tail-lights fuse number for a muxed peugeot?
#21: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Stoo, Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:28 am ---- Yes, but I suspect he was just the guy who does the bookings. Turned out the problem was the BSI box. Garage said new box is £300 plus £100 to fit, but they thought I wouldnt be keen on that, so they re-wired the lights so they're no longer through the BSI box. Job done!
Fair play to them. They could have just told me I needed a new box.
#22: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Stoo, Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:06 pm ---- Turned out is was the BSI. Garage quoted £300 + £100 to fit, but they decided I wouldnt want that, so they re-wired the lights so they no longer connect through the BSI. Job done.
Fair play to them. They could have just said I needed a new box and called it a day.
#23: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Stoo, Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:07 pm ---- Funny stuff going on with this thread. Sometimes messages seem to be missing, other times they're there!
#24: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Deano69, Location: London & KentPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:59 pm ---- not keen on rewiring and bypassing devices....
causes all sorts of problems later
#25: Re: Help regaining credibility with 206-owning girlfriend Author: Sim, Location: West CountryPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:49 am ---- Let's see how the car runs now, I feared too BSI might've had it; will rummage this forum/online for any possible fixes without needing to replace or bypass, but iirc sometimes BSIs shoot themselves in the head with a door handle..
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