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#1: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:33 am
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Hi all, I'm back but in something alot slower and more spacious than before, thought i would start a project thread so i can keep track of the old girl.

life takes its hold and im now the proud dad to two mini me's, two dogs a cat and a beautiful wife.... we have a VW touran for the family duties and the 206 was given to me from my mum as shes gone to a Volvo now.... still got my mk1 under a cover so hopefully the pug isnt too much of a distraction from that.

not got any real plans with this one but the dream list would be to have it at stage 2 on a nice set of wheels and a healthy drop....

for now im hovering my head over a few things on the bay so will see how much of my bonus i can keep back for the pugs mods

it will be power first so any tips or best things to buy would be helpful then im faced with either keeping it a bit of a sleeper or have a nicely modified SW...?

opinions welcomed, will try to get some pics up as she stands soon...

#2: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: Timon2210, Location: Palestine PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:22 pm
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Welcome back,sounds a nice project,post pics,and we will see Smile

#3: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:58 am
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cheers, will try to get some pics up asap. current lists of bits I need to get / want to do:

egr delete DONE
alloy gear knob from a gti 180 DONE
tint the side windows from the B pillar back DONE
alloy pedals from a gti 180 DONE
180 front and rear seats DONE
180 dash trims and speedo cover DONE
180 sp handbrake handle fitted DONE
180 fuel filler cap fitted DONE

de cat the exhaust needs fitting
mechanical boost controller needs fitting
boost guage needs fitting
406 top pipe metal needs fitting
406 top pipe rubber needs fitting
C5 bottom pipe plastic needs fitting
intercooler needs fitting
silicone / metal pipework ongoing
straight through 2.5" exhaust
2.2 hdi fuel pump
1.6 hdi fuel pressure sensor
uprated clutch kit
remap
new brakes for the front
electric rear window conversion
cruise control (if possible)
de badge sides and rear
black front badge
darken the headlights and front fogs
new number plates
darken rear fog and reflectors
fit 180 folding wing mirrors
fit 180 alloys
fit sp bumper grill
fit / modify 180 glovebox cover


had a look around at a few how to's and build threads but if anyone can let me know if fit and forget parts for chasing stage 2 id be greatful

Last edited by spud_gti on Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:02 am; edited 20 times in total

#4: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: MrWhite PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:34 pm
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southwestchap is selling the top inlet elbow if you're looking to get started with your intercooling kit

#5: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:12 pm
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Pm sent to him re the top pipe.....

needing the stage 2 as she feels very reserved

#6: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: southwestchap, Location: Devon PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:58 am
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Replied spud_gti

Couple photos to get you started.

 


 


Not the neatest but has proved a function and allowed me to up the boost and retain the stock air box for OEMness

#7: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:32 pm
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Brill, cheers fella, is it best to keep the stock filter then? Or should I be looking at a decent cone?

cheers

#8: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: southwestchap, Location: Devon PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:34 pm
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spud_gti wrote:
Brill, cheers fella, is it best to keep the stock filter then? Or should I be looking at a decent cone?

cheers

Stock airbox and a new filter has no effect really on power vs a cone...tested on a dyno.

#9: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:58 pm
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That'll do nicely, cheers

#10: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:18 am
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trying to keep it OEM looking so ordered the top rubber hose from the 406 also....

got the C5 lower pipe so just the rest to get now in silicone, hopefully the parts will come filtering in over the next few weeks....

#11: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:31 am
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had a little look over the car at the weekend as I only had a spare hour with the kids, the front discs look a bit tired so Im looking at upgrading them at the same time, what is a straight swap?

Can I fit xsi / gti calipers and discs? are they much different from what the car comes with stock??

Will I be able to fit 180 front brakes or will the hub need changing also??

Any help is appreciated.

#12: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: southwestchap, Location: Devon PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:55 am
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spud_gti wrote:
had a little look over the car at the weekend as I only had a spare hour with the kids, the front discs look a bit tired so Im looking at upgrading them at the same time, what is a straight swap?

Can I fit xsi / gti calipers and discs? are they much different from what the car comes with stock??

GTi 140 discs are 266mm from what I've seen. Same as what is on the 2.0HDi. Not sure on piston size if thats any different

spud_gti wrote:

Will I be able to fit 180 front brakes or will the hub need changing also??

GTi 180 brakes will fit with the 283mm discs but you will need to run 16"+ wheels (generally)

I fitted some 307 HDi D-Turbo discs, pads and calipers to my XUD 206 and that worked fine. They were 283mm just had to run nimrods. Some 15" wheels will fit but its very tight.

#13: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:02 pm
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Brill, cheers fella, might just end up getting some new discs and pads for the time being then go the 180 route

#14: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: Sim, Location: West Country PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:19 pm
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Nice! You beat me to this intercooler kit, looking forward to the final countdown! Smile

#15: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:04 pm
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Still parts collecting at the moment..... as and when funds allow

#16: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:33 am
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right then....... a few questions:

where is the best place to tap the bbost guage line into and where is the most convenient place for it to come through the bulk head?

seen a few things on the web about upgrading to 10mm fuel lines, should i be considering this?

when fitting the 406 top pipes do i just need a breather for the rocker cover or should i try to get that back into the inlet pipe from the air filter??

might get 5 mins on the old girl at the weekend to do a few jobs.....

going to do a full service on her also in the near future so oil, oil filter, fuel filter, air filter, cabin filter, brake fluid and coolant flush but need to go through the service history to see when all of it was done..... cambelt was done last year so i would of hoped the coolant would be fresh.....

is there a how to on how to drain / replace the power steering fluid??

anyone local got a clutch alighnment tool?? seen a kit on ebay for £20 that im considering...

any help with any of the above is appreciated.

#17: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: southwestchap, Location: Devon PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:33 am
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spud_gti wrote:
right then....... a few questions:

where is the best place to tap the bbost guage line into and where is the most convenient place for it to come through the bulk head?

In the aluminium inlet elbow, ideally you'd need to take it off, drill & tap and use a hose tail barb fitting on it

seen a few things on the web about upgrading to 10mm fuel lines, should i be considering this?

On the older XUD engine it's more worthwhile, not really on a HDi

when fitting the 406 top pipes do i just need a breather for the rocker cover or should i try to get that back into the inlet pipe from the air filter??

the 406 inlet elbow doesn't have a breather to it, the one from the cam cover goes into the turbo intake pipe and is fine as it is

might get 5 mins on the old girl at the weekend to do a few jobs.....

going to do a full service on her also in the near future so oil, oil filter, fuel filter, air filter, cabin filter, brake fluid and coolant flush but need to go through the service history to see when all of it was done..... cambelt was done last year so i would of hoped the coolant would be fresh.....

Depends if the water pump was changed, on the radiator at the bottom on the passenger side is a drain tap (generally)

is there a how to on how to drain / replace the power steering fluid??

no real easy way, drain the reservoir and add new, repeat a couple of times after running the car.

anyone local got a clutch alighnment tool?? seen a kit on ebay for £20 that im considering...

Valeo clutch kits come with a plastic tool which i've used multiple times and works fine

any help with any of the above is appreciated.

#18: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:37 am
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In the aluminium inlet elbow, ideally you'd need to take it off, drill & tap and use a hose tail barb fitting on it
cool, well yours is not yet fitted so already ready to drill, what size hole / hose tail would i need? what size boost pipe should i use for this?? can i use the same size pipe for relocating my mechanical boost controller??

the 406 inlet elbow doesn't have a breather to it, the one from the cam cover goes into the turbo intake pipe and is fine as it is

ahhh thats what i meant, was just checking as it looked tight around there when the 406 pipes would be fitted

Valeo clutch kits come with a plastic tool which i've used multiple times and works fine

cool, ill be getting an organic clutch (helix) so dont think it will come with a tool..... will see what comes up, if not then ill have to stump up and get the universal tool set

thanks for the replies fella.

#19: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: southwestchap, Location: Devon PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:09 am
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I believe I've always used 4mm silicone piping, generally a decent boost gauge comes with piping and yes if you get the ball and spring MBC from mumby developments that takes 4mm piping. Also there is a rubber bung down beside the water tank on the bulkhead, up and behind the throttle pedal inside.

hmm thats annoying, but suppose makes the job easier.

#20: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:34 am
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Cheers fella, will have a look at the weekend Smile

do you have / could find any links for the hose tail connector?

#21: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: southwestchap, Location: Devon PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:52 am
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Hosemaster

used that site before, just depends on what size drill and tap you'll be using

#22: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:53 am
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either going to be M5 or M6......

is bigger always better?? lol

#23: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: southwestchap, Location: Devon PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:51 am
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spud_gti wrote:
either going to be M5 or M6......

is bigger always better?? lol

Doesn't matter, all depends on your drill and taps available to you.

#24: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:12 pm
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Still hoarding parts for the old girl, working loads so no time to fit plus the nights are drawing in so might be on the back burner until next year........

#25: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: pAvax, Location: Essex PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:14 pm
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spud_gti wrote:
Still hoarding parts for the old girl, working loads so no time to fit plus the nights are drawing in so might be on the back burner until next year........
i know that feeling!

Why I am planning to do my in-car stuff soon. Cleaning window motors, changing colours of lights, cleaning cockpit etc etc.

#26: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:10 am
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Family life keeps me busy most of the time and if I get a spare hour I'm out on the bike if the weathers good haha

I need to get some pics up at some point.....

#27: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:25 am
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right so nearly another month has passed and with saving up for christmas I've had a bit of spare money burning a hole in my pocket, not enough for the uprated clutch but enough to purchase a GTI 180 that I'll be breaking for parts....

the whole sleeper plan is going to go out the window now and Im looking at doing a oem sw gt d turbo......

hopefully before christmas I'll get some pics up of the two as Im on a strict time scale to get rid of the 180 shell before christmas, so anyone wanting any bits then let me know...

then once the 180 has gone and the funds raised from that are in my back pocket the stage 2 conversion should be complete and I can get the map sorted from Steve....

#28: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:29 am
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Why not build an SW Gti 180?

#29: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:10 am
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thats kind of where im going with it but the engine / running gear has been used for a 205 tack car....

so its still going to be a coal burner Smile plus its a daily

#30: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:51 am
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right so with the 180 I've been breaking I've managed to keep some of the better bits for the SW.

eventually had some time to swap some bits over so the SW now wears a SP bonnet vent, 180 front and rear seats, 180 clocks, 180 dash binnicle and 180 dash trims.

got a few more bits to swap over like the folding mirrors, tweeters, speakers for the rear doors, SP bumper grill, 180 alloys, possible 180 suspension and a few more smaller bits.

I've also taken from the 180 all the little bits that were a little worn on my SW in the form of clips and sound deadening.

hopefully from selling the last few bits I can then buy myself some 180 callipers and pads as Ive got the discs and then fit them for some better stopping power.

still no pics but I'll try to gt some before Christmas lol.

#31: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: pAvax, Location: Essex PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:38 am
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You were breaking a 180, but don't have the callipers for a 180?

#32: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:01 pm
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Calipers were removed for the track 205.....

#33: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: pAvax, Location: Essex PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:18 pm
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Ahhh fair enough. Sorry, probably missed it somewhere.

#34: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:09 am
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so.........

the 180 has gone to the scrap yard in the sky, still have a few bits left over from her and slowly selling them to help other pugs stay on the road, was a shame to break her but she had a bit of a smack on the front and the engine / running gear was already gone so it was kind of at the point of no return...

managed last night to fit the sp filler cap and handbrake handle before the kids started and it got too cold lol.

things will be really slow from now till early next year on the sw so ill try to get some pics up before christmas.

Spud.

#35: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: spud_gti, Location: Nottingham PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:25 pm
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Putting the car back to stock so selling the 180 bits and stage 2 bits if anyones interested?

#36: Re: 206 SW 2.0 HDI Author: VorTechS, Location: Gloucestershire, UK PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:51 am
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I don't suppose you have a filter box? What other bits are lying around?



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