#1: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: scobie140, Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:15 am ---- Hello, I'd like to pick your brains.
A quick bit of background info
Just picked up a 55 plate 1.4 16v 206 as a run around, solid wee car with low miles (39k) but has no history of the timing belt being done plus there is a whine coming from one of the aux pulleys, not really had a proper look yet due to the weather. I'll be doing the job myself.
I've had a look through here and the net and i'm struggling to find much info on this engine regarding the timing belt.
Where do you guys get your kits? other forums there is traders who can get you all the gear cheaper than most other places.
What I think i'll need;
Cam belt kit (Belt, water-pump, idler & tensioner pulleys)
Aux Pulleys
Aux belt
Anyone recommend or got links to the correct ones?
Any guides on how to do it? so I can make sure I've got all the tooling before i start and aware of anything that might cause issues.
Cheers
#2: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: cosmicdance, Location: Leeds, UKPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:34 am ---- That is a nice low mileage car you've picked up there.
Personally I have always had cambelts changed every 60,000 miles on my Peugeot 1.4 HDI and all cars I have ever had in the past.
This is the recommended frequency for most cars but I can understand if you want to just change it as a preventative measure.
Andy
#3: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:52 am ---- Try euro car parts....
#4: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:57 am ---- And try carparts4less .. it's actually ECP, but they tend to offer bigger discounts, but you can only have them delivered.
#5: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: scobie140, Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:16 am ----
cosmicdance wrote:
That is a nice low mileage car you've picked up there.
Personally I have always had cambelts changed every 60,000 miles on my Peugeot 1.4 HDI and all cars I have ever had in the past.
This is the recommended frequency for most cars but I can understand if you want to just change it as a preventative measure.
Andy
Cheers. Yeh no rust other than on the boot at the bottom of the window and paint work is in good nick other than a few minor chips,although it full of swirls so could be doing with a polish when summer comes.
Doing the timing belt is just for piece of mind, I was going to leave it till the summer but thought since i'll be changing the aux pulleys and belt to stop the whine I might aswel catch the cambelt at the same time.
ECP and car parts4less was where I looked originally just not sure on what the part no.s are for the aux pulleys
#6: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: Sim, Location: West CountryPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:25 am ---- 1.4 16v is the DOHC ET3J4/ET3JP4 (KFU) one, quite uncommon methinks en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...engine#ET3 (RAJ has one )
It'll need locking tools: you can do away with drillbits for camshafts, but it's good to check how your flywheel locks; I've seen SOHC ones getting locked away with a simple pin, but DOHC might need a special flywheel locking tool, especially if this is going to be your first cambelt do
Your friend is Autodata in terms of timing belt guides, or quick googling for "ET3J4 timing belt pdf" brought this one up: service.citroen.com/dt...1_2005.pdf following your engine code KFU you'll be interested in pages 104 and around Last edited by Sim on Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:32 am; edited 2 times in total
#7: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:29 am ---- Well even if the car is low mileage,but the timing belt and water pump must be replaced,as the car have no service history,and according to it's age,it need to be replaced to make sure you stay in the safe side,and don't lose the engine because of a belt.
I would try to get a timing kit from the dealer,also the original water pump would be better if it's a keeper.
#8: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:48 am ---- This engine also had VVT fitted.
You need the correct locking tools before attempting to change the timing belt.
Special spark plug socket required if your going to remove the spark plugs - Laser tools 4376 for that.
#9: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: scobie140, Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:08 am ----
It'll need locking tools: you can do away with drillbits for camshafts, but it's good to check how your flywheel locks; I've seen SOHC ones getting locked away with a simple pin, but DOHC might need a special flywheel locking tool, especially if this is going to be your first cambelt do
Your friend is Autodata in terms of timing belt guides, or quick googling for "ET3J4 timing belt pdf" brought this one up: service.citroen.com/dt...1_2005.pdf following your engine code KFU you'll be interested in pages 104 and around
Trust me to pick up the one with the uncommon engine haha.
That link is spot on, never came across that before.
By the looks of this www.tooled-up.com/artw...vs4935.pdf its just pins to lock out the fly wheel. Just need to get the sizes and then i can get what ever drill bits i need or knock up something on the lathe.
It has a semi service history but its been a local garage and no notes of what ever has been done so i'll just assume its been its been a quick oil change and a stamp in the book.I'll give it a full service in the summer. I'll try to get a kit with a gates belt as that's the critical bit i'm worried about.
Got a spark plug socket, well used over the years.
#10: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:49 am ---- Engine is common in the 207 though isn't it?
#11: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:43 am ----
scobie140 wrote:
Got a spark plug socket, well used over the years.
Is it the correct type that fits these new smaller type of spark plugs that several manufacturers now use on modern engines?
Throttle body are a known weak point & the reason I got the car cheap in first place.
I had the engine ecu software updated after a Peugeot technician recommend it & it really transformed & improved the way the car drove.
#12: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:14 am ----
Edward wrote:
Engine is common in the 207 though isn't it?
It sure is, my mechanic mate was putting a clutch in one last Saturday.
He looks after a few 207 with this engine fitted.
#13: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: scobie140, Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:06 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
scobie140 wrote:
Got a spark plug socket, well used over the years.
Is it the correct type that fits these new smaller type of spark plugs that several manufacturers now use on modern engines?
Throttle body are a known weak point & the reason I got the car cheap in first place.
I had the engine ecu software updated after a Peugeot technician recommend it & it really transformed & improved the way the car drove.
You've got me wondering now, I'll have to check the size next time i'm in the garage. Its fit all the cars and bikes I've used it on so far, if not its an excuse for a new tool.
Whats the issue with the throttle body?
#14: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:21 am ---- The throttle body is the electronic fly by wire type, they are known to wear out & can give odd running fault.
The 206 I got cheap had a throttle dead spot fault the owner & local garage couldn't fix, a quick scan on Peugeot Planet soon pin pointed the problem.
A good used throttle body cured the fault.
#15: Re: 1.4 16v Cam belt change Author: scobie140, Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:14 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
The throttle body is the electronic fly by wire type, they are known to wear out & can give odd running fault.
The 206 I got cheap had a throttle dead spot fault the owner & local garage couldn't fix, a quick scan on Peugeot Planet soon pin pointed the problem.
A good used throttle body cured the fault.
Ahh I did think the first 10% of the throttle was a bit non responsive just not looked into it yet, could be this
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