#1: Creaky suspension Author: mikejr91, Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 9:13 pm ---- Hi all,
New here, thankfully because my Pug's been relatively problem free for the last 3 years I've had it
It recently had an interim service however and (literally) the day before - could hardly believe my luck - it developed a loud knocking/creaking noise. I could feel it when it did it under braking/slow maneuvering so asked the garage to check it out and they replaced the top of the strut and the drop-link on the n/s/f.
It got rid of much of the noise for a few days, however there is now still a squeaking noise. It happens occasionally, only when dry - it's dead quiet in the rain - and/or only if it's being driven for more than about 20 mins/half an hour. It does it over bumps, uneven road surfaces, but not really when cornering. Sometimes when turning the wheel most of it's travel while stationary a similar creaking noise occurs....
I caked all the bushes on both sides in white grease, it made it a bit better but it hasn't gone away entirely.
Do you think it is the ARB bush, the steering track rod ends or something else altogether?
She has about 114k on the clock and I want at least another 20-30k
Cheers!
Mike.
#2: Re: Creaky suspension Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:48 am ---- If it goes away when wet then it is likely to be a bush. But caking the outside in grease won't help. It's the internal faces where it rubs on a bolt.
Could be the a/r bar bush, although when worn they tend to knock. Unlikely to be the track rod ends. I'd look at the lower arms and the two main bushes in those. (GTI and CC models use the more expensive arms with metallastic bushes .. the standard rubber ones will, and do, fail very quickly and are often fitted as they are "cheaper")
On a 206 it might also be the rear axle .. the torsion bars and/or the trailing arm bearings which wear and then rub.
(PS You should also used red rubber grease on bushes!)
#3: Re: Creaky suspension Author: mikejr91, Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:59 pm ---- Thanks very much for the quick reply!
I shall look at the lower arm bushes a bit closer... once the grease is cleaned off. Then it's £60 a pop from Eurocarparts so looks like I'll be getting the credit card out again...
It is due some new tyres on the front so might get KwikFit to check it out under there beforehand..
I'll let you know what it is when it's sorted.
Cheers!
#4: Re: Creaky suspension Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:21 pm ----
mikejr91 wrote:
Thanks very much for the quick reply!
I shall look at the lower arm bushes a bit closer... once the grease is cleaned off. Then it's £60 a pop from Eurocarparts so looks like I'll be getting the credit card out again...
Make sure they sell you the right type
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It is due some new tyres on the front so might get KwikFit to check it out under there beforehand..
I'd go to somewhere that knows what they are doing. This is the same outfit who diagnosed a "broken electric turbocharger" on a misfiring 206 gti
#5: Re: Creaky suspension Author: mikejr91, Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 10:52 am ---- So what would be the right type? Is it worth upgrading to one with a better bush? Presumably the ones currently on it are the originals, but I guess they've lasted the expected length of time.
Haha, well I do only use KF for tyres and exhausts - they've been quite good on that front but I'm not sure I would trust them to do much more than that, but at least if they think they might get a couple of tyre sales out of me...
#6: Re: Creaky suspension Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:42 pm ---- Kwik-fit once failed to seal up the rear joint of an exhaust on my car. Everytime I took it away it would blow within a couple of miles.
Their suggested solution: weld it together ... on the car ... an inch or so from a plastic fuel tank. That wasn't going to happen.
Took it to an indie: within 5 mins fitted the correct clamp .. and refused to charge me.
I've also seen an assymetric tyre fitted by them with "Inside" on the outside ... apparently to get "a few more miles out of it" ....
#7: Re: Creaky suspension Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 9:18 pm ---- What type depends on the model of the 206. I don't think fitting the higher spec GTi arms to a lower spec car is a problem but is the other way. The large 2.0l engine is too heavy for the plain rubber bushes. But you could fit poly bushes to the arms ... might make the ride harsh though. As the balljoint is intgeral to the arm I'd start with two new arms if I was polybushing though.
#8: Re: Creaky suspension Author: mikejr91, Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:11 pm ---- Hmm, thanks for the advice on all counts! I think I'll stick with the normal bushes, unless I end up replacing both arms at the same time, in which case I guess it's deffo an option.
It wasn't making the noise as much today, and I really can't notice any obvious external wear on the rubber on any of the bushes round there so might leave it until the front tyres are worn a bit closer to the minimum...
#9: Re: Creaky suspension Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:58 am ---- If your replacing the wishbones then either get the genuine Peugeot ones OR Lemforder ones - they will outlive the rest of the car.
When I owned a 206 it had both wishbones replaced with genuine parts in the 3rd year of Peugeot manufacturer warranty, 10 years / 100k + miles later they will still working fine.
#10: Re: Creaky suspension Author: mikejr91, Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 4:22 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
If your replacing the wishbones then either get the genuine Peugeot ones OR Lemforder ones - they will outlive the rest of the car.
When I owned a 206 it had both wishbones replaced with genuine parts in the 3rd year of Peugeot manufacturer warranty, 10 years / 100k + miles later they will still working fine.
Thanks very much - the dramatic price difference means you probably do get what you pay for - and gives extra peace of mind.
I shall let you know when I eventually get round (soon) to it being done.
#11: Re: Creaky suspension Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 10:53 am ---- Interesting. With my old Alfa, Lemforder were never a favoured brand with the Alfisti. TRW was the preferred there. Lemforder were seen as "cheap" esp as ECP sold them. I've used Lemforder on son's Clip but these haven't been on long enough to judge quality.
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