#1: 206 PAS Pump Whining - NOT! Author: clicon357, Location: KentPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:52 am ---- Hello, I'm struggling to find a replacement power steering pump for the wife's 206. It's a 1.4i, petrol, non abs, year 2000. Hoping to pay around £60-75 for a recon unit.
These are the details on the pump:
PA 66-GF33
P/N 2607 9813
2606 4217
96314 11580
I've emailed a couple of eBay sellers but nobody has come back. A picture of the existing pump:
Has anyone any idea on a replacement?
Many thanks Last edited by clicon357 on Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:20 am; edited 1 time in total
#2: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:26 pm ---- www.onlinecarparts.co....58711.html Last edited by gazza82 on Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:59 pm; edited 2 times in total
#3: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: clicon357, Location: KentPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:36 pm ----
#6: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: clicon357, Location: KentPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:30 pm ---- Thanks all. A few quid spent now. Circa £200. Radiator, pas pump, two new drive shafts and seals. Plan to give to the lad as his first car. Bodywork is rot free is the main reason. Plus he'll be doing most of the work.
#7: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: clicon357, Location: KentPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:58 pm ---- Just an update. Replaced the pas pump today. This was done to cure a whining noise that changed pitch when you turned the steering wheel. Has made no difference whatsoever!
#8: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: clicon357, Location: KentPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:20 pm ---- Osf drive shaft today, it put up a fight but we won! Also did the wishbone as the boot was starting to split. Track rod end too whilst I was there as the hex socket on the end of the tapered bolt rounded off.
Then pullies 58 and 60. Tbh the ones I took off didn't seem too bad.
Fired her up hoping I'd cured the longstanding "whine".
Nope!
#9: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: ekjdm14, Location: CheshirePosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:38 pm ---- Have you checked the return pipe to the pump/reservoir for cracks/splits. Even a small one in the return line that doesn't let fluid out can allow air in causing a whine. Otherwise, I'm not sure... Maybe a kink/dent in one of the hard lines could be straining the pump more than normal?
#10: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: clicon357, Location: KentPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:44 pm ----
ekjdm14 wrote:
Have you checked the return pipe to the pump/reservoir for cracks/splits. Even a small one in the return line that doesn't let fluid out can allow air in causing a whine. Otherwise, I'm not sure... Maybe a kink/dent in one of the hard lines could be straining the pump more than normal?
Started off way back by changing the PAS pump thinking that was the cause of the noise. Changed the fluid too. Made no difference. Tonight I noted that if with the car idling on the drive I turn to full lock left or right the whine stops pretty much. Back the wheel off by even a tad and it whines again.
Would like to get to the bottom of it! Only things I haven't done are the alternator (59) and AC pulley (62). Rack maybe?
#11: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: clicon357, Location: KentPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:18 pm ---- When idling it sounds like this with an underlying whine. Rev it and the whine varies:
If I then turn the wheel to full lock the whine stops but as it happens there's a little squeal and a "pshhh" noise. At 13 secs in I reach full left lock and jiggle it bit on and off. Then I put it on full right lock at 27 secs in and do the same:
Any ideas? I'd love to cure this noise once and for all.
#12: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: ekjdm14, Location: CheshirePosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:10 am ---- That, to me at least, sounds like your alternator bearings are droning. Doesn't sound like a PAS whine really, it's probably just affected by the steering because the alternator is getting tight and turning the steering presents an extra load on the belt that quietens down the resonance.
The reason it stops eventually with spraying water is, I think, that the belt is effectively "aquaplaning" over the tightest pulley. I'd wager if you put a paint mark on the alternator pulley so you can see it spin easier and then did the test again you'd see the alternator slow/stop as the drone goes away. (might be a good idea to mark the other pulleys as well in case it's one of those but I really feel that's the alternator)
By the way, I'd be careful spraying water in the strut top/scuttle area there as your heater intake (pollen filter) is up under there and you could end up with wet floors and steaming up issues.
Hope this helps.
#13: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: clicon357, Location: KentPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:52 pm ----
ekjdm14 wrote:
That, to me at least, sounds like your alternator bearings are droning. Doesn't sound like a PAS whine really, it's probably just affected by the steering because the alternator is getting tight and turning the steering presents an extra load on the belt that quietens down the resonance.
The reason it stops eventually with spraying water is, I think, that the belt is effectively "aquaplaning" over the tightest pulley. I'd wager if you put a paint mark on the alternator pulley so you can see it spin easier and then did the test again you'd see the alternator slow/stop as the drone goes away. (might be a good idea to mark the other pulleys as well in case it's one of those but I really feel that's the alternator)
By the way, I'd be careful spraying water in the strut top/scuttle area there as your heater intake (pollen filter) is up under there and you could end up with wet floors and steaming up issues.
Hope this helps.
Tried the paint trick on the alternator and PAS pullies. No sign of them slowing / stopping. However...the AC pulley, (62) appears stationary:
In this next pic you can see the AC pulley, (yes I know the belt is off). With the belt on and the engine running the AC pulley just sits and looks like this. Should the triangular plate rotate?
#14: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: ekjdm14, Location: CheshirePosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:46 pm ---- The centre part of the AC pulley only rotates when the AC is active (even then it cuts in/out as needed) so may just be that.
If the AC works, do you notice any change in the sound when it does it's in/out routine?
#15: Re: 206 PAS Pump Author: clicon357, Location: KentPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:23 am ----
ekjdm14 wrote:
The centre part of the AC pulley only rotates when the AC is active (even then it cuts in/out as needed) so may just be that.
If the AC works, do you notice any change in the sound when it does it's in/out routine?
Thanks. Someone else said it should pull in and rotate when you press the AC button on the dash. It doesn't. I'll check I'm getting 12V to it for a start.
Not overly fussed having AC tbh. I wonder though if at the mo its freewheeling but on a worn bearing?
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