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 Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:17 pm |
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| Lee wrote: |
He wants a diesel tho 
The 206 GTi is a poor attempt at a hot hatch anyway, there's a lot better out there for similar/less money. |
what does other cars have to do with it? end of the day the petrols are faster so when it comes to speed get a petrol, economy diesel, thats how it is thats the point i was making, you can get a faster cars for same cash granted but i was on about 206s and if you want the quickest 206 you dont buy a diesel,
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:36 pm |
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Location: Wasall, West Mids
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A hdi with decat, filter, intercooler, hybrid turbo, fuel pump and injector upgrades remapped will be 200ish bhp and a rediculoud amount more torque than you could achieve in a gti180. I believe there are very few people without a super/turbo charger that have broken the 200bhp mark even with cams induction mapping etc etc so to be honest it is a lot more possible to tune a diesel up to 200bhp then a gti180.
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:32 pm |
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| Rustym wrote: |
| a rediculoud amount more torque than you could achieve in a gti180. |
You mean more smoke?
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:33 pm |
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That's just to p**s the guy in the 180 off a little bit more haha
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:58 pm |
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yeah thats it list upgrades, god why bother ???? answer this, would a 90bhp 2l turbo diesel 206 beat a normal gti or 180, no exactly now shut the f*** up your arguing about something pointless, and rusty i dont own a 180 ya dumb f*** look at my sig its a gt dipshit with a gti engine that is standard and will rape any standard diesel 206 FACT, f*** listing upgrades im on about the car that rolls out the factory, no 206 diesel will beat a 180 or normal gti thats a FACT dont care for cooler upgrades bigger turbos, just remember this diesels need turbos because there f*****g s**t, diesel burns slower its why all diesels have turbos and 2l 206 petrol are na because they dont need forced induction to get going, petrol is better, no need to argue is diesel was so good all supercars would run on it fac tis petrol is better for performance, and that is a fact
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:10 pm |
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Location: Glasgow / Welling
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180 with throttle bodies will easy be over 200bhp! Thats without doing cams and all that rubbish. Doubt that you will find an extra 110bhp out a 90 engine by changing the exhaust and a remap and a bit bigger turbo. That is over double its standard performance 
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| 206 180 rally car in progress. I may not be perfect but there are parts of me that are f£%$ing brilliant | |
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:01 pm |
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| imjeeves wrote: |
| 180 with throttle bodies will easy be over 200bhp! Thats without doing cams and all that rubbish. Doubt that you will find an extra 110bhp out a 90 engine by changing the exhaust and a remap and a bit bigger turbo. That is over double its standard performance |
exactly
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:26 pm |
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| Rustym wrote: |
| A hdi with decat, filter, intercooler, hybrid turbo, fuel pump and injector upgrades remapped will be 200ish bhp and a rediculoud amount more torque than you could achieve in a gti180. I believe there are very few people without a super/turbo charger that have broken the 200bhp mark even with cams induction mapping etc etc so to be honest it is a lot more possible to tune a diesel up to 200bhp then a gti180. |
180s have roughly 170 so your saying its cheaper and easier to get 200 form a 90bhp engine.........
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:38 am |
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| no_offences wrote: |
| yeah thats it list upgrades, god why bother ???? answer this, would a 90bhp 2l turbo diesel 206 beat a normal gti or 180, no exactly now shut the f*** up your arguing about something pointless, and rusty i dont own a 180 ya dumb f*** look at my sig its a gt dipshit with a gti engine that is standard and will rape any standard diesel 206 FACT, f*** listing upgrades im on about the car that rolls out the factory, no 206 diesel will beat a 180 or normal gti thats a FACT dont care for cooler upgrades bigger turbos, just remember this diesels need turbos because there f*****g s**t, diesel burns slower its why all diesels have turbos and 2l 206 petrol are na because they dont need forced induction to get going, petrol is better, no need to argue is diesel was so good all supercars would run on it fac tis petrol is better for performance, and that is a fact |
I just read this and laughed, did you get any sleep last night? I cant believe how wound up you can be, and as usual this topic has gone completely off the rails. You havnt once answered the origonal question.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:40 am |
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the 2.0 hdi is the best and easiest engine to be tuned and chipped out on the 206 wont beat gtis standard tho no, but he must want a diesel
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| New car 2011 / Thoruim grey , 207 1.4 Vti 16v Sport 95bhp , tinted rear windows.
Old car 2000/ 206 2.0 hdi. | |
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:49 am |
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1.6 gti hdi ftw, they have 110 bhp standard, plus got all the gti trim 
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:54 am |
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yeah the 1.6 hdi are faster and have better wheels and trim but he said about the 2.0 hdis
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| New car 2011 / Thoruim grey , 207 1.4 Vti 16v Sport 95bhp , tinted rear windows.
Old car 2000/ 206 2.0 hdi. | |
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:55 am |
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| eddrj wrote: |
| yeah the 1.6 hdi are faster and have better wheels and trim but he said about the 2.0 hdis |
fair enuf, just an option to consider tho
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:59 am |
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yeah should look at all the hdi diesels if thats what he wants 1.4 hdi 1.6 hdi and the 2.0 hdi the 1.4 hdi be cheaper to tax and insure and that the 1.6 better interior and faster standard but the 2.0 best one to tune and chip. The 1.9d only one with no turbo and def not the fastest one
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| New car 2011 / Thoruim grey , 207 1.4 Vti 16v Sport 95bhp , tinted rear windows.
Old car 2000/ 206 2.0 hdi. | |
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:16 am |
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Joined: Nov 28, 2010
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Location: south wales
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the 2litre hdi's do they have different power options???//
only asking so maybe some one could answer this guys question,
i've drove a couple, my mate had a nice blue one with all nice sporty seats etc and it was pretty quick and a lot faster than another one same year that looked standard and both i believe hadn't been played with at all. so do they do a faster model of the 2.o hdi ?????/
oh and i think the op was asking or looking for a fast diesel for the best of both worlds not the fastest car in the 206 range.
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03 206 1.4 hdi 3 door 187k
02 transit 100 280 196k
04 renault Laguna 80k
09 transit 115 300 43k. | |
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