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 Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:50 pm |
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Joined: Dec 10, 2010
Posts: 812
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Location: Cape Town
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| data wrote: |
I like the sound of throttle bodies as well, the whine of a supercharger is an acquired taste!
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No one likes a screamer 
I prefer the acquired whine 
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:51 pm |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2011
Posts: 2977
Trade Rating: +34
Location: Nuneaton
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Yeah I know what u mean data regarding the sound of a supercharged car, I prefer a more throaty sound that ITB's give, the wee 206 is never going to be a Ferrari beating car, but I love her anyway
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:55 pm |
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Joined: Feb 12, 2010
Posts: 4308
Trade Rating: +62
Location: Partying with the Info Shufflers
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| furryhobnob wrote: |
| Razpulsedj wrote: |
| im 21, 22 on july 2nd |
I'm not sure if there's a rolls Royce turbine plant near where you live, I work at the biggest one in the country at derby |
Can you find out 
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:59 pm |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2011
Posts: 2977
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Location: Nuneaton
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Yeah I'll find out tomorrow pal if there's a plant near u, whether that particular plant is taking apprentices or not is a different story, they've just started putting a new cell in where I work that's why they're looking for new people
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:50 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 5574
Trade Rating: +11
Location: UK
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pug1off are just down the rroad from us and they can do ITB's. Spike off here had his GTi done there, think he was pretty pleased with it.
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:26 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage
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As for the comments on using Ecosse for fitting throttle bodies, my advice is look at my project topic.
They did a very amateurish job with the wiring, using cheap components that should go nowhere near a car. They cut original 10 year old wiring from original sensors and attached it to new sensors. This made no sense at all when the Omex comes with its own loom that can go direct to all engine sensors.
They also don't fit air temperature sensors when every single other TB kit or company that fits TB's supply and fit these sensors. ECU controlled fuel injection isn't about approximate fuelling, it's about giving the engine exactly what it needs.
Their corner cutting also resulted in the Omex ECU being attached to the -ve wiring for the injectors (and all other sensors) but the original ECU and wiring controlling the +ve. This combination of two electrical systems creates lot of unreliability and it took 4 months to work out why the car was constantly cutting out. I had to fix this at further expense to myself. Ecosse did supply a new Omex loom and a new coolant sensor - an admission of fault? End result. I had to buy another car!
There is evidence of a suck it and see approach being used for the wiring too. Wires were soldered into the original loom and then when realised it was wrong they just cut the wire off but left 2 inches behind. Soldering was just covered by insulation tape as well. Did these mistakes cause the problem causing the original ECU to cut out every now and again.
Oh and I asked for a quote for the work. When I got the car back the price had increased by £300. They charged £200 for piston pocketing when both Longmans and High Flow Heads both wanted just £100. They they suspiciously knocked £100 off the piston machining price as a goodwill for taking so long (over 4 weeks) to do the car. Why would they specifically knock the price off the piston machining? Answer: because it never cost £200 in the first place.
Apparently Matt from Ecosse missed a works night out to work on my car. That shows how committed they are to deliver the goods. Sounds quite unprofessional too.
In short in my opinion Ecosse is very much run with an eye on the £'s. Something has to pay for that big workshop. Their average customer is fairly young and probably doesn't know a great deal about the work being done. This gives Ecosse an opportunity to cut corners and therefore save money increasing thier profits.
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:44 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 1792
Trade Rating: +12
Location: Bridgnorth, Nr Wolverhampton
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| Icetto wrote: |
| imjeeves wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7c3XW5QA3Y&feature=youtube_gdata
My 180 with TB. Sounds lovely  |
That's awesome. Well done
I wish someone could magically ship some ITBs to me for my 180 |
Jenvey is a five minute walk from my house, if you sort it all out ill ship them out to you, i work for an international mail order company
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:49 am |
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Joined: Jan 06, 2011
Posts: 1850
Trade Rating: +8
Location: Wiltshire
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| Kersh wrote: |
| Icetto wrote: |
| imjeeves wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7c3XW5QA3Y&feature=youtube_gdata
My 180 with TB. Sounds lovely |
That's awesome. Well done
I wish someone could magically ship some ITBs to me for my 180 |
Jenvey is a five minute walk from my house, if you sort it all out ill ship them out to you, i work for an international mail order company |
Service with a smile lol
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:14 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010
Posts: 11520
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Location: What's it to you? ? ?
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| Edward wrote: |
In short in my opinion Ecosse is very much run with an eye on the £'s. Something has to pay for that big workshop. Their average customer is fairly young and probably doesn't know a great deal about the work being done. This gives Ecosse an opportunity to cut corners and therefore save money increasing thier profits. |
Your not the first & wont be the last that finds out Ecosse aint the Peugeot tuning wonder gods everybody makes them out to be
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:18 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 3948
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Location: A Track near you ;)
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If i earnt what you did i wouldnt want to ITB a s***ty 206 i'd own a nice man's family car, DS-R, Megane 250 as a example
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Renault Trafic - Daily & Tow Van
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:21 am |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2011
Posts: 2977
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Location: Nuneaton
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I've got a family car lol the 206 is my car for work and back that's it really
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:46 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 3085
Trade Rating: +12
Location: Essex
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| Icetto wrote: |
| imjeeves wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7c3XW5QA3Y&feature=youtube_gdata
My 180 with TB. Sounds lovely |
That's awesome. Well done
I wish someone could magically ship some ITBs to me for my 180 |
Give me a pm.... I may be able to help
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:40 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
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Location: In the garage
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| Mattie-RS wrote: |
| If i earnt what you did i wouldnt want to ITB a s***ty 206 i'd own a nice man's family car, DS-R, Megane 250 as a example |
I didn't TB a s***ty 206. I did it to one of the very best examples!
I got a good family car too! Since when has a small Citroen or Megane been a family car? They are just hot hatches which will one day be described as s***ty too!
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:03 am |
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Joined: Dec 10, 2010
Posts: 812
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Location: Cape Town
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Thanks Kersh and macj for offering to help me.
The problem is shipping from UK to SA is so expensive that it doesn't make it worth it unless one gets the ITBs at a ridiculous low price. The other problem is that no one in SA would be able to fit it. They can't even install and run Catcams on a 180 
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:49 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage
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Shipping will be a relatively small cost of the overall spend. I wouldn't worry about it. Fitting them isn't actually hard at all. Although how a multiplexed car would deal with half it's parts missing I don't know. It can be done though because Longmans did it lots.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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