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 Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:10 pm |
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Hi folks. So I bought this Peugeot 206 verve on a cat D. 
I've replaced the lower wishbone, shock absorber, spring, anti roll bar links, tie rod end, tie rod rack end and the wheel.
There is still a very visible negative camber. Could the stub axle be ruined? Have the parts shop gave me the wrong lower wish bone?
I'm getting a little worried about this car.
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:14 pm |
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Take the wheel off and turn the wheel to full lock if the brake disc is sat on the p**s than your hub assembly needs replacing.
Look at the subframe for damage as well.
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:18 pm |
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Has it been on a jig yet?
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| '98 Nile Blue 306 GTi 6
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:27 pm |
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Location: Andover
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| Lecktorious wrote: |
| Has it been on a jig yet? |
No it hasn't. I was hoping it wouldn't come to that as the damage looked minimal. Jigging costs an absolute bomb doesn't it?
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Take the wheel off and turn the wheel to full lock if the brake disc is sat on the p**s than your hub assembly needs replacing.
Look at the subframe for damage as well. |
Will do. Many thanks.
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:34 pm |
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| Paul76 wrote: |
| Lecktorious wrote: |
| Has it been on a jig yet? |
No it hasn't. I was hoping it wouldn't come to that as the damage looked minimal. Jigging costs an absolute bomb doesn't it? |
I would have put it on a jig first to see if the chassis was straight before spending money on parts (unless they had to be replaced anyway).
I'd find a local bodyshop that has a jig before you do anything else. Can't comment on price, as that will come down to each individual bodyshop.
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| '98 Nile Blue 306 GTi 6
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:42 pm |
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| Lecktorious wrote: |
| Paul76 wrote: |
| Lecktorious wrote: |
| Has it been on a jig yet? |
No it hasn't. I was hoping it wouldn't come to that as the damage looked minimal. Jigging costs an absolute bomb doesn't it? |
I would have put it on a jig first to see if the chassis was straight before spending money on parts (unless they had to be replaced anyway).
I'd find a local bodyshop that has a jig before you do anything else. Can't comment on price, as that will come down to each individual bodyshop. |
Yes, the parts needed to be replaced anyway. Wishbone and shock absorber were quite visibly damaged.
I can get a front stub axle for 30 quid so I figured it wouldn't hurt to change that over.
I suppose the front subframe could be bust too. I would be surprised if the chassis was bent to be honest.
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:55 pm |
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Is a cat D, when an insurance company writes the vehicle off, because the repairs override what the vehicle book price is.
Just seems a bit strange to spend on a car thats a write off'
Or am i missing something.
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:09 pm |
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| DREWDEN wrote: |
Is a cat D, when an insurance company writes the vehicle off, because the repairs override what the vehicle book price is.
Just seems a bit strange to spend on a car thats a write off'
Or am i missing something. |
The repairs override the book price because body shops and mechanics use brand new parts and charge the Earth.
I put the car back on the road for a fraction of the quote from authorised insurance garage.
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:16 pm |
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Have you had it up on a ramp and looked/measured suspension mounting points?
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:22 pm |
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| Leegsi wrote: |
| Have you had it up on a ramp and looked/measured suspension mounting points? |
No mate. The car hasn't left my drive yet. I've just changed all the suspension parts over and the wheel is still crooked.
I'm going to change the hub over in the next few days and If that don't work then I'll take the car to a garage.
I was just wondering if bent stub axles and sub frames are common on Peugeots? This is the first time I've worked on a peugeot.
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:30 pm |
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| Paul76 wrote: |
| I was just wondering if bent stub axles and sub frames are common on Peugeots? This is the first time I've worked on a peugeot. |
How do you mean stub axle? As far as I was aware, it was only the rear trailing arms that had stub axles fitted. Am I missing something? If you have any pictures that would be handy.
Heard of bent subframes and rear stub axles before on accident damaged cars. Bent both the stub axle and trailing arm on my 306  better something bending than breaking though!
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:39 pm |
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| Lecktorious wrote: |
| Paul76 wrote: |
| I was just wondering if bent stub axles and sub frames are common on Peugeots? This is the first time I've worked on a peugeot. |
How do you mean stub axle? As far as I was aware, it was only the rear trailing arms that had stub axles fitted. Am I missing something? If you have any pictures that would be handy.
Heard of bent subframes and rear stub axles before on accident damaged cars. Bent both the stub axle and trailing arm on my 306 better something bending than breaking though! |
Some people call the stub axles and some people call them Hubs.
Stub axles
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:24 pm |
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I doubt the hub is bent, it's pretty solid.
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:54 am |
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Go for the hub. If it was the bodyshell that was bent enough to see it in the suspension you'd also see it on the body itself.
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:49 am |
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Just buy a full strut and hub from a scrap yard?
If not I guess you could get a sub frame dirt cheap from a scrap yard.
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