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Problem: Funny Noises, Water/Clutch/Grinding (with video)
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PugJH
PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:20 pm Up
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So my girlfriends car has developed *all of a sudden and all at once* a problem.

I drove it to work yesterday and today because she said it was juddering when pulling away or reversing (which it was)
Yesterday when I started it up I heard a grinding noise (starter motor) then when its running you hear a tapping noise, press the clutch pedal down you feel a spongey force and hear a watery noise, as if water is sloshing about and filling up. While sticking to a decent speed say 50mph you wouldnt know anything was wrong at all and even changing gear doesn't sound strange.

Day 2 (today) drove to work in it, pulling away at junction etc was juddering so I gave it extra rev's and it seemed to like that and carried on smoothly, then while going along I opened the window to realise that everyone outside can hear the engine bay throwing a wobbly.

When I got home I parked up, while stopped, with clutch down I heard the water sound so I took my foot off the clutch to hear a clacking noise, I did this a few times and when my foot was off the clutch it sounded like someone drilling, ie metal against metal IMO, which was resonating down the clutch pedal.

Soon to update a video.

Any ideas, possibly clutch/release bearing about to go, contaminated GB, if so how?
If its clutch would it come on so suddenly?

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Is it not just the noises of a normal high mileage car?
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Most of the symptoms point towards the clutch going. Hopefully the metal against metal sound is the pressure plate against the rivets of the friction plate and not the friction plate against the fly wheel.

Might be worth whipping the starter off and seeing what you find. Not heard of a flywheel ring gear giving way for quite a while, usually the starter gear goes first, but you never know.

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vimeo.com/68906830

Have a listen. Hope link works

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Bump. Any one else got views on video. How much does a clutch replacement cost? Well labour time?
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Sounds like clutch, depends on who works on it, my mate did mine in about an hour and a half. he use to work at mr clutch though and we did it at work on a two poster.
It would be wise to ring around local garages to see how much it's going to cost. Probably around 300 including parts

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Clutch went yesterday.
Garage want £460 to replace - 6hours labour Surprised - madness

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Hi all, clutch was fixed for less by garage, but it still judders pulling away, everything else is still smooth, I need to check engine mounts but what else could it be.
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Wasn't a Valeo clutch by chance?

Im starting to hear bad things about replacement Valeo clutches fitted to other cars.

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Not sure I will double check with the garage, GF is fuming, saying she doesn't feel safe driving it, costing money blah blah, should of just scrapped the f****r.
Its under warranty so hoping they can feel the issue when I take it for check up and sort it.

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was a good car last time I saw it, just getting old like mine & needing of some TLC to keep it running Wink
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Going to have to change the spark plugs later today, see if this helps, then roll under and see if the engine mount has gone, altho it looked ok the other day (hoping its not this as it means taking the driveshaft out).
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Similar issue on a Rover the other day, one of the engine mounts was loose underneath, when you rocked it on the clutch you got the same kind of noise you are getting, got it up on the ram and tightened the mounts and it was OK, it had just worked itself loose over the years.

Can't say it was the same for the engine running a wobbly, it was just when you engaged the clutch, so, it could well be the mounts.

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