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 Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:32 am |
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When I floor the accelerator with the obd reader plugged in it only showing as 80% open. Is that unusual?
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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:48 pm |
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I have no idea if that's right or not but, do you have a floor mat?
That might rob you of 5-10%, just a thought.
This may also help you:
206gti.net/throttle-cable/
Regards, Richard.
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Last edited by RichardEke on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:52 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:52 pm |
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No mate. The pedal is hitting the stop. I do know minis suffer with this as a restriction from the dealer. A remap opens them to 100%
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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:31 pm |
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Remove the air intake and see what is actually happening.
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:09 am |
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I have. It looks to be fully open. Could the 80 be degrees?
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:31 am |
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If the ecu only opens it 80% surely it won't be running as much power. Can any other 180 owners check theirs?
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:53 am |
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Mine too. PPS2000 reads not full open, while throttle body is...
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:46 pm |
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Oh! Could this be a restriction. As I know rc version make more power
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:06 am |
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Is it 80 % though gpvecchi?
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:25 am |
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Will the extra 20% actually make any difference though? Maybe the TB isn't restrictive at all even at 80% open.
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:33 am |
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I just wonder if the fuelling would change. If the ecu is seeing 80% and wonder if 100% would make it put more fuel in making more power
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:13 am |
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Is this 80% reading taken when the car isn't moving OR when driving along?
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:23 am |
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Hi. It's 80% in both modes. Will never go any higher
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:53 am |
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I reckon the engine is swallowing as much air as it can even at 80% open. Therefore the throttle body isn't restrictive at all.
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:32 pm |
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The issue appears to be that the 80% shown with PP relates to an actual 100% and I think the question will be:-
Is this how ALL of this model engine management system is set up or is there a problem with this one?
If it is correct that they are all like this I would then want to know why but that is another question completely.
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