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 Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:36 am |
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Hi there..
OK, this is really killing me.. I have spend over £100 on MoT fees and this thing still isnt fixed.. Let me explain. You know where the wishbone connects with the hub?? Well, the pin from the wishbone goes into a hole in the hub, which is then held in place with a bolt. Well, on my car, a 2000 206 L D, I cant seem to get this pinch bolt tight enough to prevent it from moving. It moves ever so slightly, but it's still a fail.
A few questions..
Is the pin meant to be a bit free to pivot, or is it meant to be rock solid?
If so, and if I cant get it tight enough, can I use something in there like that steel putty or weld it or something so it doesn't move??
If this is a common problem, is there any unique 206 fix for this??
Man thanks in advance
Simon
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:06 am |
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So the ball joint won't stick in the bottom of the hub tightly? Like the hole is slightly too big? Sounds like you need a new hub.
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:10 am |
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You cant do the nut up properly that goes through the hub? What did your garage suggest? Its all a tight squeeze down there so there should be no movement, unless the balljoint is knackered.
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:21 am |
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Steve206....the balljoint is fine, it's a new wishbone... so new balljoints all over the shop... My garage said it's fine... I said.."Me a**e"....
Edward...... If I use that steel putty cement stuff, do ya think it'll work??
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:31 am |
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If it works it will be temporary. And then will it come apart afterwards? I'd do it properly.
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:03 pm |
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Righto then.. new hub it is.... Thanks guys
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:09 pm |
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just a quickie.... is there any magic trick to getting the old hub off, or is it just basic.... Off with the track rod, wishbone ball joint, shock strut and brake caliper....?
Thanks
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:19 pm |
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You sure its not just the pinch bolt thats stripped its thread? Ive had it a few times and it ends up with the same problem.
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:36 am |
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Is the pinch bolt correct one? Are the threads f****d? Its more than likely the bolts f****d
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:03 am |
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If the bolt it wrong that's what allows movement which wears the ball joint hole in the hub. New hub and nut and bolt will be required.
omaghman2,
Don't forget to loosen the driveshaft bolt first before you do anything else.
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:02 am |
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Is the pinch bolt correct one? Are the threads f****d? Its more than likely the bolts f****d
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206 Gti Race Car
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:01 pm |
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Just get new pinch bolt from peugeot dealer, it only cost you a few £.
Remove the old one and replace it with the new one. It will be best pratice if you replace the pinch bolt as well whenever you replaced a wishbone consider how difficult to change one.
PS: when you slot in the new bolt, make sure the the wishbobe grove is in the right position, when u look through the hole you should able to see a circle,
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:21 am |
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 Got the same problem myself!! Fitted a new wishbone, bolt and nut but it seems the hole in the hub carrier has opened up. Any one know if all hub carriers are the same
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:27 pm |
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I think the GTi and 2.0 HDi ones are different to those on the TU engined cars.
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:01 pm |
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Thanks Edward
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