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 Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:42 pm |
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Anti-lag with a strong turbo would be fine I understand that turbos life spans are shortened but if I get into hill climbs I think it will be a benefit for the car. I wont be driving this car on a daily basis and you can set anti-lag up so you can turn it on/off if I was driving it on the roads.
It depends what you want out of the car. Im using stock internals as the engines have been proven to 300hp. New emerald ecu.. downpipes.. tip.. bigger injectors.. oil hose setup.. intercooler.. clamps.. pipes.. recirc or dump valve.. external or internal wastegate and plenty of other things. I will be doing all the work to get everything setup and then be dropping it off with a tuning garage to sort the power setup side of things.
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Last edited by 206gt160 on Tue May 03, 2016 12:48 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:50 pm |
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Im just trying to advise you, you wont need but if you really wanted it. One stock internals wouldnt cope and maram shafted billet wheel turbo would may be able to cope but then you are talking plus 2k for a unit
Just get a t28 on there and youll be fine, mine made boost at 2.5k and full boost by 3.5 and thats a 1.6!
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:56 am |
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Anti lag on a track car?
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:14 am |
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The anti-lag is not fully on the cards yet I have said maybe end up with anti-lag if I get into hill climbs. Then it will be fully forged. At present the aim is to get the car to around 240hp with similar torque values. Then after a few years if I'm looking into getting into hill climbing with a few mates I know that are starting to do it now, then I would look into fully forging the engine with a bigger stronger turbo.
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Last edited by 206gt160 on Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:18 am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:16 am |
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For now it is going to be a saab/volvo turbo or something similar.. I could even weld on a new flange if I wanted to broaden my search for a turbo. One step at a time.
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:11 am |
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Last edited by 206gt160 on Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:36 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:43 am |
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Contemplating using some 330cc injectors in the build. Due to the power output being 240-260bhp I will need to check these will be big enough
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Last edited by 206gt160 on Tue May 03, 2016 12:52 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:08 am |
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They wont be, 490s i would say
You want to keep the duty cycle below the 70 percent mark to keep atomisation good
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| Team Impossible Possible
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
Click to see more
144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
Click to see more
For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:13 am |
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I'd be straight to DP Engineering for one of their manifolds on a job like this. Buying something proven to work will save headaches further down the line.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:31 am |
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490's? I have seen starlet turbos running 330cc on 240bhp + in the past? I have it worked out around 400cc.
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Last edited by 206gt160 on Tue May 03, 2016 12:53 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:38 am |
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| Edward wrote: |
| I'd be straight to DP Engineering for one of their manifolds on a job like this. Buying something proven to work will save headaches further down the line. |
This manifold was proven on a 206 that was running over 300bhp.. the dp-engineering manifold would be a necessity if I wanted to run 500bhp like some of the dp-engineering builds, but im only running 240bhp. The manifold has been checked over by a very good welder I know and he has said that the welds and pipe bend work would be more than capable of running what I want to run.
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Last edited by 206gt160 on Tue May 03, 2016 12:54 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:49 pm |
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I'm not an expert on injectors so any advice is good
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Last edited by 206gt160 on Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:47 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:09 am |
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I would send it all back and stick with N/A pal. Thers no point in going big power if you can't use it or get it down. On track your on and off the throttle all the time it's just not worth it.
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:45 am |
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No I think I will stick with the turbo project, its been my plan for years now and 240 bhp isn't big power at all. If you look at what some of the lads off DP-Engineering are running 240bhp is nothing. Yours is 200+ so its not much more power than that really I will just get there slightly quicker (possibly) with an LSD to help get the power down.
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:37 pm |
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Heres a few photos of the Gti6 brake setup and stripping the car
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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