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 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:22 pm |
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Hi everyone!
I bought another 206 recently. Upgraded to a gti. It came with a k and n typhoon induction and a magnex cat back already fitted.
Basically I wanted to know if the induction is damaging the engine or sapping power as I've heard bad things said on here about cones on 206s.
Although it does sound amazing so if its not making any improvement but also no losses ill leave it on!
Cheers
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:55 pm |
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The typhoon is top of the range, although cones can cause some power losses due to sucking hot air in from the engine, I would expect gains from the typhoon model, especially considering they are about £250.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:41 am |
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There's a direct cold air feed to it isn't there? If so, it should be ok.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:32 am |
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Cone filters are well known for losing power, best bet is the standard air box with a pannel filter.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:35 am |
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yeah its down by the wheel arch. its proper low though with just a sort of cloth cover on it. surely this gets so much water exposure
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:12 am |
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while we are on the subject.....how does the 180 engine cope with and inclosed induction kit?
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:18 am |
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Anyone who knows anything about performance will tell you induction kits are sh*t, i had one on my 180 for about a week and it lost all its low end pull, sounded good but thats it, standard airbox and pannel filter is the best thing for performance, other than ITB's but thats a bit over the top.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:22 am |
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cheers rich 
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:49 am |
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you see my opiniion differs.
ENCLOSED induction with a good direct air feed will give you beeter performance over a panel filter with standard ducting any day.
The standard ducting goes through so many different twists and turns that the air flow gets slowed down.
The Typhoon system is good if it has an enclosure around the filter and a good direct air feed.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:53 am |
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| Golfguy206 wrote: |
you see my opiniion differs.
ENCLOSED induction with a good direct air feed will give you beeter performance over a panel filter with standard ducting any day.
The standard ducting goes through so many different twists and turns that the air flow gets slowed down.
The Typhoon system is good if it has an enclosure around the filter and a good direct air feed. |
Well there's only one way to find out..................FIGHT!!! 
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:12 am |
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Depends what induction kit to be fair, carbon fibre air boxes or cf pipes like the typhoon are much better then a standard air box witha filter, on my gti you can clearly see an improvement in all gears, if you just slam a cone filter in the engine bay then its a different story.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:23 am |
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I also used an open pipe with a bit of gauze covering it with a cold air feed and that was crap too, so i dont really see how an iduction kit can be better.....if i did buy an iduction kit i would buy and enclosed unit rather than an open cone. But this is one of those things people are never actually going to agree on.......its down to personal preference.
There is a RR day that someone did in a magazine with a clio 172 testing different induction kits (including a pannel filter) and all the induction kits made the car lose power and with the pannel filter it ran what it should do, i cant remeber what the mag is but im sure if you search google you will find it.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:30 am |
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Ive got a Pipercross Viper fitted to my '53 GTi and from the current experience this specific C.A.I. does improve performance, pulls harder and feels alot less strangled from 4500 to the limiter. Lower down I've not noticed a drop in performance apart from when initially mashing it at very low revs e.g. 1500, after that it starts to come on song more the higher you rev...
Its quite inkeeping with the engine character as all the real go is at the top end on the 138 GTi, get it revving and it flys...sounds racier too lol
Have tried the Typhoon before the Viper on mine but sold it, partly as if it rained (which it has alot recently!) I cant undo the piping in a hurry, where as at the min I can just unclip the ducting from the filter inlet until later. Does make a nice noise on full throttle though!
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:36 am |
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why would you need to undo the piping when it rains? the typhhon has a drycharger to prevent rain from getting into it, grnated it wont stop a ford or floods but it does work in the rain.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:38 am |
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| Kersh wrote: |
| why would you need to undo the piping when it rains? the typhhon has a drycharger to prevent rain from getting into it, grnated it wont stop a ford or floods but it does work in the rain. |
Whats a dry charger?? A jacket?
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