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 Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:47 am |
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The horn isn't working, fuse is ok.
Been told it is most likely the connector behind the steering wheel airbag. I read in a thread to short out the horn relay so if horn works then control wiring i.e. the above mentioned connector is at fault. if doesn't then probably the wiring or horn.
Thing is i looked behind the fuse board (engine compartment) and couldn't see any relays.
So where is the relay to check?
Secondly where exactly is the horn located and how easy to get to? so i can check for 12v at the terminals.
Thirdly if I need to remove steering wheel airbag  can someone point me to a very detailed guide on how to do it safely. I'm not a mechanic and last thing i want to do is create more faults or make car unsafe for my wife.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:08 am |
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you dont have to take steering wheel of to check, behind the steering wheel will be a connector for the horn put a multimeter on it and press the horn.
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03 206 1.4 hdi 3 door 187k
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:15 am |
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| mjsroofing wrote: |
| you dont have to take steering wheel of to check, behind the steering wheel will be a connector for the horn put a multimeter on it and press the horn. |
So, all i need to do is remove steering column covers? Is the the connector colour coded so i know which one to be checking
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:18 am |
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yeah, not sure what colour the wire is mate, have you got a haynes
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03 206 1.4 hdi 3 door 187k
02 transit 100 280 196k
04 renault Laguna 80k
09 transit 115 300 43k. | |
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:27 am |
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No, no Haynes.
I see how i get on, might be obvious once the cover is off.
Thanks.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:43 am |
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I reckon corroded conection on the horn itself.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:50 am |
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| E5GDM wrote: |
| I reckon corroded conection on the horn itself. |
Another thing to check although not certain where the horn is located or best way to get to it. i.e. from underneath or wheel off through wheel arch, etc.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:54 am |
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It would help if we knew what year the 206 in question is, 2 totally different electrical systems used & both come with different built in faults.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:01 am |
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Oops yeah sorry.
Feb 2003.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:06 am |
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Its multiplexed then.
Airbag warning light isnt on as well is it?
Horn is buried behind the front grill on the left hand side, simple 2 pin connection, stick your test meter on there & see whats missing when the horn push is pressed.
Most likely find a dirty / corroded connection OR dead horn through lack of use.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:36 am |
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| MrBSI wrote: |
Its multiplexed then.
Airbag warning light isnt on as well is it?
Horn is buried behind the front grill on the left hand side, simple 2 pin connection, stick your test meter on there & see whats missing when the horn push is pressed.
Most likely find a dirty / corroded connection OR dead horn through lack of use. |
No Airbag warning light.
Tried pushing horn and can hear click on each push from under bonnet so suspect button and relay ok. Next to check the horn connections.
When you say left side behind grill. Take it that's from inside the car i.e. same side and battery and fusebox under bonnet.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:51 am |
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| Mazda_Ian wrote: |
When you say left side behind grill. Take it that's from inside the car i.e. same side and battery and fusebox under bonnet. |
Nope, left as in when your standing facing the front of the car, horn is next to drivers side headlamp buried in the space between the grill & the radiator.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:15 am |
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Ok cheers.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:57 am |
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Bumper off job on my 180.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:06 am |
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some are hard to get to, was bumper off to remove the horn as he only needs to get to the wires, does any one know were the wires join the loom for easy access
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03 206 1.4 hdi 3 door 187k
02 transit 100 280 196k
04 renault Laguna 80k
09 transit 115 300 43k. | |
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