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 Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:08 pm |
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hi all i own a 206 gti 180 2003 with 56k and ive recently changed the cambelt only to find that it has started to misfire, the anti polution light was also on. i then stripped cambelt back off to make sure the timing was done correctly which it has been.
PLEASE NOTE there is no way it could of bent any of the valves as the timing was check by hand first lol
iv checked everything is plugged in correctly and started it again today only for it to continue misifiring, and then after around 2-3 mins on idle it started to search too, and now all the lights have come up on the dash.
any advice or help would be very much appreciated thanks
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:19 pm |
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There is a black sensor (think it's called a idle control valve) on the throttle body You can see it threw the inlet manifold make sure that is connected and even clean it as this could cause an antipollution fault as it did on my 180. Also try checking the lamba sensors are connected and are working. If it wasn't doing it before most likely something not been connected up properly. The only other thing u can do is get it on a fault code reader.
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:25 pm |
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thanks will try them tomoz, and yes youre right somthing has gone wrong since the cambelt change because it wasnt doing it before
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:26 pm |
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No problem mate hope you get it sorted.
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:37 pm |
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| danjames wrote: |
| thanks will try them tomoz, and yes youre right somthing has gone wrong since the cambelt change because it wasnt doing it before |
Did you use all the correct locking tools when you replaced the cambelt?
See page 3 of this thread.
www.206info.co.uk/Foru...tml#265073
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:39 pm |
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you don't need speacial tools mate jus somthing good like allen keys to pin it with, im borrowing my freinds coil tomoz to test an see if thats the problem
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:59 am |
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| nick180 wrote: |
| There is a black sensor (think it's called a idle control valve) on the throttle body |
There's no idle control valve on the 180. As it's a electronic throttle the ECU use the throttle butterfly to control the revs so no ICV is needed.
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:14 am |
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sounds like your a tooth out mate, did you lock every thing up before you removed the old belt.
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03 206 1.4 hdi 3 door 187k
02 transit 100 280 196k
04 renault Laguna 80k
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:21 am |
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Just out of interest how did you lock the inlet cam (or more accurately the inlet pulley)?
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:43 am |
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| danjames wrote: |
| you don't need speacial tools mate jus somthing good like allen keys to pin it with, im borrowing my freinds coil tomoz to test an see if thats the problem |
FAAAAAIIIIL 
they make the special pins for a reason why do so many people think they are not needed we spend thousands of pounds on timing kits at work so the job can be done properly there is a reason for that
engines like the tu 8 valve you can get away with it engines like the 180 with floating crank pulleys and vvt you are asking for a disaster
look at what edward has said it sounds like thats whats causing the problem best off taking it to a dealer and getting them to sort it properly lukcy you havnt done more damage to be honest
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:45 am |
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you set these up by eye ifyour really clever but not adviseable, like above either get kit or ask for help
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03 206 1.4 hdi 3 door 187k
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:18 am |
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| danjames wrote: |
| you don't need speacial tools mate jus somthing good like allen keys to pin it with |
If you say so
Fingers crossed the repair is expensive 
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:16 am |
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| Edward wrote: |
| nick180 wrote: |
| There is a black sensor (think it's called a idle control valve) on the throttle body |
There's no idle control valve on the 180. As it's a electronic throttle the ECU use the throttle butterfly to control the revs so no ICV is needed. |
Edward what is this sensor then is it coused me problems and I thort it was the icv?
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focus st 3 with pro alloy intercooler, 3" mongoose down pipe, 200 cell sports cat and mongoose cat back, collins bov, dreamscience dsci cold air intake,focus rs injectors,focus rs oil cooler,dreamscience dsci tuneing platform mod X map,focus rs clutch & flywheel, rs fuel pump, polly bushes in wish bones rear axal and suspension white line front and rear arb, eibach pro street s suspension. | |
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:12 am |
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| nick180 wrote: |
| Edward wrote: |
| nick180 wrote: |
| There is a black sensor (think it's called a idle control valve) on the throttle body |
There's no idle control valve on the 180. As it's a electronic throttle the ECU use the throttle butterfly to control the revs so no ICV is needed. |
Edward what is this sensor then is it coused me problems and I thort it was the icv? |
your probably thinking of the vvt solenoid 
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:31 am |
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even if you have locked the top the bottom will be out as it has a floating crank!
ive never done a 180 cambelt but my brother has done loads at work and it still takes him 4 hours or so
if you havnt locked it using the correct tools your timing will be out i can garentee it and unless you get the proper tool you will never time it right at all
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