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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:17 pm |
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Location: oldbury westmidlands
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i have a slight water leak on my 180 and it appears to be coming from where the water pump housing bolts the water pump i think  does anyone have any diagrams or pics for this or know how hard it is to remove the water pump housing? thanks
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:20 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: Stevenage
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When was the cam belt done? As you would normally replace the water pump at the same time.....thus killing 2 birds with one stone.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:31 pm |
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Location: oldbury westmidlands
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not long ago and no didnt change that, didnt even come to mind tbh, i havnt checked the water since iv owned the car and while the car was in the garge it froze up (no antifreeze) and now it has defrosted has started to leak so im guessing thers a seal or somthing broke.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:31 pm |
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Joined: Apr 16, 2010
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as mikey said, if it wasnt changed when the belt was done the new belt would wear the old pump out faster
could be a costly mistake as the 180 is a pain in the ass to do and can cost alot of money as its labour intensive
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:34 pm |
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Location: Stevenage
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I would think new belt and water pump again to be on the safe side
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:38 pm |
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Location: oldbury westmidlands
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the thing is though ive been looking for a new water pump but from what i can see its just a pump and not the housing so that wouldnt acheive anything i dont think, is there a core plug up there somwhere?
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:14 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
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Location: In the garage
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| kieron206gti wrote: |
if it wasnt changed when the belt was done the new belt would wear the old pump out faster
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No it wouldn't.
Is the pump itself leaking or where the pipe at the back of the engine enters the pump?
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:35 pm |
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Joined: Feb 11, 2010
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Dealer do a modified water pump and housing it comes complete it's about £50, if I was doing that I would change timing belt again,
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:39 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
| kieron206gti wrote: |
if it wasnt changed when the belt was done the new belt would wear the old pump out faster
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No it wouldn't.
Is the pump itself leaking or where the pipe at the back of the engine enters the pump? |
i forgot you are a expert and you know loads of stuff
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:42 pm |
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Dealer do a modified water pump and housing it comes complete it's about £50, if I was doing that I would change timing belt again,
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:07 pm |
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Joined: Feb 13, 2010
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| dturbopeck wrote: |
| Dealer do a modified water pump and housing it comes complete it's about £50, if I was doing that I would change timing belt again, |
Yes they do, do a upgrade one and its not £50 its round £70 from dealer.
If the cambelt was replaced only 5000 or so miles ago i would just remove the belt and replace water pump and refit the belt, but if the water has been leaking on to the cambelt or the car has done alot miles since the cambelt was changed then best to replace the cambelt again, and the other thing is that the tensioner some weaker every thing you remove and instill it i have find which ant good really.
Iv seen alot of water pumps leak now on gti 180s when i have been doing cambelt on these's and i will never change a cambelt with out doing the water pump aswell, they normaly leak from the seal behind the pully where the shaft sticks out.
If you need the water pump doing am sure i could sort this out for you 
Regards
Kyle
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:07 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
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| kieron206gti wrote: |
| Edward wrote: |
| kieron206gti wrote: |
if it wasnt changed when the belt was done the new belt would wear the old pump out faster
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No it wouldn't.
Is the pump itself leaking or where the pipe at the back of the engine enters the pump? |
i forgot you are a expert and you know loads of stuff |
Well how would a new belt wear the pump more? The belt only touches the pulley which never wears out. The bearings and seals wear out and the fact a new belt is fitted won't make a difference to the wear rate.
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:31 pm |
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| gti180boy wrote: |
| dturbopeck wrote: |
| Dealer do a modified water pump and housing it comes complete it's about £50, if I was doing that I would change timing belt again, |
Yes they do, do a upgrade one and its not £50 its round £70 from dealer. |
Hi Kyle. What is that modification or upgrade. Can you give detail.
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:05 pm |
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Joined: Feb 13, 2010
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Location: Stafford
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| Schumi wrote: |
| gti180boy wrote: |
| dturbopeck wrote: |
| Dealer do a modified water pump and housing it comes complete it's about £50, if I was doing that I would change timing belt again, |
Yes they do, do a upgrade one and its not £50 its round £70 from dealer. |
Hi Kyle. What is that modification or upgrade. Can you give detail. |
Well
Every single one i have remove all come made of plastic and says mrk 4 or 5 ( cant emember now lol ) on them and the new ones come made from aluminium and the propellor seem different.
Kyle
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:35 pm |
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The KWP water pumps from Euro Car Parts come with metal impeller. They also appear to now come with the outlet pipe too which they didn't used to.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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