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 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:56 pm |
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just a few questions
did any model of the 180 or latest 206's come with discharge lights?
also does anyone know what engine differences there are between the two models as in the exact details
Cheers
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:03 pm |
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No 206's came with HID's as standard.
The 180 has VVT and a tubular manifold off the top of my head. 
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:05 pm |
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no 206s came with those lights
as for the engine its been covered lots before but basics are
180 has vvt
different inlet manifolds
better manifold, sports cat and different exhaust
more complicated dual air intake system
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:07 pm |
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thats a bugger about the lights!! im using a car for road rallying and the regs state if a car was produced with discharge lights they could be used 
is the 180 and 140 the same model of engine ?
sorry for all these q's they proberly have been asked a million times over but im no good with the search on this!
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:09 pm |
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They are both EW10's but with the differences above...
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:09 pm |
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the general consensus is that, if you are buying a car to be standard, the 180 is better.. but if you want to tune a car, apparently the GTi is easier to do.
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:19 pm |
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well id like a farily standard pokey engine to go in my rally car but all the bsi problems and stuff is putting me well off them, i know you can take this off an run omex or some sort of management but this is going down the never ending road of a money pit, so im thinking a 140 engine with few minor mods
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:21 pm |
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The GTi138 will also run multiplexing if you get a '51plate or newer.
Non-plexed GTi137/8's also run a BSI
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:24 pm |
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thats that idea out the window then! with our sort of rallying it can get quite rough and offen end up with alternator problems and stuff , and i heard you cant bump start 180's ? looks like the electrics will be the weak point!
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:26 pm |
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I've bump started mine? :S
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:28 pm |
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you can bump a 140 i had to do it a few times last night lol
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:33 pm |
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i swear i read someone did it and had a problem thread and it had loads of faults come up? omex might be a lot less hastle in the long run!
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:37 pm |
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Using jump leads on a mux is a bit of a taboo, but plenty of people do it. It's just it can cause a power surge and play havoc with the BSI
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:41 pm |
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i see, so what sort of engine / management would you suggest you lot seem to know alot more about them then me!
i want about 160 - 180 reliable bhp
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:43 pm |
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There has been instances on here where jump starting a multiplexed 206 can fry the BSI, causing a hefty outlay of money in repair bills.
The 180 engine does have a quite a few differences but is based on the same lump as the GTI138 EW10.
For the purpose your seeking, i'd be tempted with the 138 engine EW10J4.
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