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 Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:24 am |
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Joined: Feb 10, 2010
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Location: Little hulton (worsley)
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Kyle (gti180boy) has got cat cams and other mods set up on a rolling road and his is 197 bhp I think.
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:26 am |
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| nick180 wrote: |
| Kyle (gti180boy) has got cat cams and other mods set up on a rolling road and his is 197 bhp I think. |
cat 804 cam.
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:30 am |
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Joined: Feb 18, 2010
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Location: Worcester
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Nick - resize your sig please mate - it's screwing my monitor up 
Re; remap
My '02 GTi 138 had a generic Angel Tuning remap and came out at 141bhp.
The actual power is not really what it's about - it's the drivability and performance that improved. It was more economical too, ironing-out flat spots and hesitations.
The remap cost £200 (group buy) - but that was without any major mods on my car.
For GTi-like performance a remap is a must
Chi's GTi came out at 125bhp pre-remap, and Kayleigh's GTi was about 131bhp - so you are unlikely to find a 138 with 138bhp 
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:31 am |
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:35 am |
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lee
kyle had 172bhp with just a k&n typhoon and janspeed cat back
rs tuning remap and cat cams 804s went to 195.5
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:42 am |
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Joined: Jan 25, 2011
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thats quality (: my 180 has only done 61k and has full pug service history so should shouldn't have lost to much bhp over the years, im looking at the remap to level out flat spots, there's abit of hesitation when i put my foot down in some gears ( traction controle turned off ).
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:46 am |
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Location: Little hulton (worsley)
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Nick - resize your sig please mate - it's screwing my monitor up
I'm on here on my phone at work lol
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:42 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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| just to add to this thread. anyone know the power output after a 180 has been mapped with a janspeed catback and pannel airfilter ? |
180 bhp if your lucky lol |
As said by Ant though it's all about the drive,
It may only unlock a little more power but that power makes a s**t load of difference to the overall drive, so much so that after owning a mapped up 180 previously i'd completely forgotten that they actually need the mapping when reverting back, the difference that just the generic Angel tuning map with my Scorpion catback/ Simota CAI was immense I remember it made it in to a complete different car, no RR results but for me they wasn't needed because the difference was seriously noticeable.
I'm betting that the cammed and mapped 180 would absolutely slaughter another mapped up 180 without the cams.
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:53 am |
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| JamieM wrote: |
| nick180 wrote: |
| Lee180 wrote: |
| just to add to this thread. anyone know the power output after a 180 has been mapped with a janspeed catback and pannel airfilter ? |
180 bhp if your lucky lol |
As said by Ant though it's all about the drive,
It may only unlock a little more power but that power makes a s**t load of difference to the overall drive, so much so that after owning a mapped up 180 previously i'd completely forgotten that they actually need the mapping when reverting back, the difference that just the generic Angel tuning map with my Scorpion catback/ Simota CAI was immense I remember it made it in to a complete different car, no RR results but for me they wasn't needed because the difference was seriously noticeable.
I'm betting that the cammed and mapped 180 would absolutely slaughter another mapped up 180 without the cams. |
remapped vs factory
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:13 am |
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I don't know if it's just me but did that recording 180/RC start accelerating before the final 'beep' if so it could have been better, and the vid should have been longer because it would have just kept pulling:)
But yeh that's the difference mapping makes:)
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:19 am |
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| JamieM wrote: |
| I'm betting that the cammed and mapped 180 would absolutely slaughter another mapped up 180 without the cams. |
You'd need about double the torque to slaughter another 180.
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:29 am |
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| Edward wrote: |
| JamieM wrote: |
| I'm betting that the cammed and mapped 180 would absolutely slaughter another mapped up 180 without the cams. |
You'd need about double the torque to slaughter another 180. |
I'd like to see a cam'd one vs another 180, i'd be suprised if there wasn't a significant difference in acceleration.. do they not work well with higher lifting cams then?
Cam's and map make a huge difference on most cars, for example on a Saxo yarrrrrs a Saxo, mine is around 130-40 bhp so i'm told just the usual breathing mods (uprated filter ~ Simota CAI, 421-decat back, denso irridium plugs)
Mapped up with cams they can produce up to 165bhp and they rip past breathered vts's easily:)
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:43 am |
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Joined: Feb 11, 2010
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Location: newcastle upon tyne
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nick180 what power is your 180 putting out?
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:57 am |
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Joined: Jan 07, 2011
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Location: Derby
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so......... if i just re-map a standard 206 gti i wont see any difference but cams and re-map i will?
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| 206 GTI, Ram air filter, lowered 35mm front, 50mm rear, Scorpion 3.5" Back box, phase 2 boot strip, m3 rear lights.. Not much more i want to do, just sorting the paint work out! | |
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:58 am |
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Joined: Jan 25, 2011
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Location: Scunthorpe
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no you will see a difference in driablity and a little more BHP and torque
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