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 Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:07 pm |
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Today seemed like a good day to start the rear beam refurb "how to" thread, So I took the camera to the workshop and started to strip out the rear end of the rally car.... about halfway through I decided to pop up the breakers to pick up a spare beam for close-up shots and to make the explanations easier.
Now this is where it all went wrong... The local breaker (25mins away) says he has one for a GTi, non-abs and has rear discs... not a problem there then me thinks. Gets there to find what looks like completely the wrong beam. Centre tube is bright yellow, the torsion bars are skinny and the LSV is on the wrong side. It is laying next to the GTi shell it was suppose to come from.
Can anyone tell me what this was from.... because its not from a GTi.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:11 pm |
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106?
or maybe is a re-condition beam?
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:17 pm |
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Defo 206 and it was standard factory as the parts label was in the correct place but not readable
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:19 pm |
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i have saw some recondition beam on ebay has yellow center tube.
but looks to me all factory beam are black though
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:21 pm |
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That may explain it then.... this was not a GTi beam though me thinks...
Thanks to Mikey for being in front of a PC at the right time 
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:22 pm |
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| macj wrote: |
That may explain it then.... this was not a GTi beam though me thinks...
Thanks to Mikey for being in front of a PC at the right time |
Yay I get a thanks 
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:32 pm |
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Yes mate you do.... saved me £50
I have had a bit of a brainstorming session on this beam refurb idea.... If you clean up a knackered beam shaft you can see the imperfections where the needle bearings have worn it.... Inside the radius arm there is the needle roller bearings that bear on the shaft. If you knock out the bearings there is a ridge that retains the bearing.... both sides of this ridge are the same diameter.
Are you all following so far........
Remove the ridge with a dremel and take to Bob my local machine shop. Get him to machine up two phosphur bronze bushes twice the length of the original needle rollers, cut grease groves on the inside faces and press them into the radius arms. Cross drill from the outside into the grease grooves and fit grease nipples. renew OEM seals on inside and outer faces and slide onto beam shaft..... reassemble
What you guys think?
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:41 pm |
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i think is a good idea, as long as the grease can actually push into the bearing
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:44 pm |
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If the bearings are grooved internally then the pressure from the grease gun will force it right round the bearing surfaces, I think it may mean you dont have to buy a new main beam shaft at £300 from dealers and the contact area of the new bushes is far greater than needle rollers
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Last edited by macj on Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:45 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:45 pm |
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Or change the bearings on a more routine basis to avoid the axle tube getting worn by old bearings.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:46 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
| Or change the bearings on a more routine basis to avoid the axle tube getting worn by old bearings. |
Do you think it would work for beams already damaged beyond just new standard bearings
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:47 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
| Or change the bearings on a more routine basis to avoid the axle tube getting worn by old bearings. |
do peugeot actually have a serivice interval set for the rear axle?
i just pick up my disc axle today and i am not looking forward to change the bearing
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:50 pm |
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| macj wrote: |
| Edward wrote: |
| Or change the bearings on a more routine basis to avoid the axle tube getting worn by old bearings. |
Do you think it would work for beams already damaged beyond just new standard bearings |
If my tube was past its best I'd be tempted to buy a brand new one.
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do peugeot actually have a serivice interval set for the rear axle?
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No but maybe owners should make their own service regime. Mine has done 60k miles so I'm wondering if stripping the axle soon might be a good idea.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:00 am |
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Big drawback to the bronze bush idea.... there are several different sizes of bearing configuration.... 50mm shaft but externals are different.... now got to buy every different set of originals to know what I have to make...... means new drawings to the engineer too.... therefore, sorry for the delay 
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:11 am |
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so this how to isnt going to be a, 'how to replace genuine rear axle bearing's' ???
bugger, thats all i was looking for really
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