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 Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:10 am |
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it doesnt matter if its a massive amount or if its minimal mate.
stretch isnt safe. it is comrpmising the structure of the tyre. yes your stretch would be less likely to blow out then a massive stretch but yours will still be a higher risk then just normal tyres.
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:10 am |
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Indeed, but with all due respect, what gives you any inclination on how much is too much? You can't just look at something and say 'yeah, that'll be fine'. That's not a calculated approach, just taking a random stab in the dark at what will and what won't be alright.
In reality, you won't be able to measure it unless you do it properly and measure the stresses on it. So really, noone will be able to give you an accurate answer.
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:11 am |
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| Addaz wrote: |
No, till then STFU |
Language, discussions are one thing, insults are another.
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:15 am |
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| Seb wrote: |
Indeed, but with all due respect, what gives you any inclination on how much is too much? You can't just look at something and say 'yeah, that'll be fine'. That's not a calculated approach, just taking a random stab in the dark at what will and what won't be alright.
In reality, you won't be able to measure it unless you do it properly and measure the stresses on it. So really, noone will be able to give you an accurate answer. |
Pretty much pointless thread on here then
Delete if you will, wheel whores it is
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:16 am |
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| Seb wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
No, till then STFU |
Language, discussions are one thing, insults are another. |
My days seb, whats happened to you? 
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:20 am |
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addaz in reply to "have you been in a car with stretch"
i have 2 infact one with stretch like yours and a mark 1 golf GTI with insane stretch.
the GTi is a show car but even on the way to shows we dont drive over 50 as it just feels way to unsafe.
in the punto with stretch like you want yes it feels safer but there are still moments when we both think o s**t! especially in bad weather like ice snow rain or even just damp roads.
keep it for shows mate not for dailys.
if you want impartial opinions then id say post it on pistonheads or try britishmods. wheel whores will just say go for itbecause of looks making it a baised opinion.
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:20 am |
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| Addaz wrote: |
| Seb wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
No, till then STFU |
Language, discussions are one thing, insults are another. |
My days seb, whats happened to you? |
FFS, finally could relate to Addaz after all this time now you've nipped it in the bud.
Unlucky, fellow troll 
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:23 am |
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| Addaz wrote: |
| My days seb, whats happened to you? |
Bad day, internet related problems, only have my laptop with me, rage ensues.
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:27 am |
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| Seb wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
| My days seb, whats happened to you? |
Bad day, internet related problems, only have my laptop with me, rage ensues. |
i often feel like this seb  I guess you could call it a man period
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:30 am |
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| Danw_VVT wrote: |
addaz in reply to "have you been in a car with stretch"
i have 2 infact one with stretch like yours and a mark 1 golf GTI with insane stretch.
the GTi is a show car but even on the way to shows we dont drive over 50 as it just feels way to unsafe.
in the punto with stretch like you want yes it feels safer but there are still moments when we both think o s**t! especially in bad weather like ice snow rain or even just damp roads.
keep it for shows mate not for dailys.
if you want impartial opinions then id say post it on pistonheads or try britishmods. wheel whores will just say go for itbecause of looks making it a baised opinion. |
Thank you, a reply that i was looking for
I cant afford to have two sets of tyres, with the other modifications planned
But i will happily sit at 50 to 60, im in no rush at all and franlky its more relaxing and saves fuel
Win win
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:32 am |
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you just really have to be on your game when driving with stretch as i said weather is a big factor. even on hot days we find the punto tends to "dance" a lil bit because of the grease on the road.
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:35 am |
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| Danw_VVT wrote: |
| you just really have to be on your game when driving with stretch as i said weather is a big factor. even on hot days we find the punto tends to "dance" a lil bit because of the grease on the road. |
So no women/men aids when driving then? 
Fun times over then
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:40 am |
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| Addaz wrote: |
| Danw_VVT wrote: |
| you just really have to be on your game when driving with stretch as i said weather is a big factor. even on hot days we find the punto tends to "dance" a lil bit because of the grease on the road. |
So no women/men aids when driving then?
Fun times over then |
lol exactly that! lol
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:42 am |
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| Danw_VVT wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
| Danw_VVT wrote: |
| you just really have to be on your game when driving with stretch as i said weather is a big factor. even on hot days we find the punto tends to "dance" a lil bit because of the grease on the road. |
So no women/men aids when driving then?
Fun times over then |
lol exactly that! lol |
If im not avoiding pot holes already, then im slowing for speedbumps
Either way i cba to drive fast
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:43 am |
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My 2 pence. As a manufacturing engineer.
Tyres are manufactured specifically for safety, they are put through many destructive and non destructive tests in which manufacturers will test their limits. These tests are done in normal conditions and on the wheel that, the tyre is specifically made for. This will allow the tyre manufacturer to create a tyre that is perfectly safe for road use and incase of a blow out the tyre will not totally disintegrate but will hold some sort of form and shape, so the driver can stop as safely as possible.
Stretched tyres are testing these limits and putting unnecessary pressure on the sidewalls, and they havent been through destructive testing. This will effect the structural integrety of the tyres.
Its upto you at the end of the day but imo its a no brainer
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