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 Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:46 am |
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I drove my car in to the city today and my mum drove it back (i'm on a provisional atm) which was about 50 miles and it was running perfectly, couldnt fault it one bit but then apparently when she dropped to down to second for a roundabout the car started spluttering and shaking, and couldnt get past 2nd gear as it would just stall if put in any higher.
Called the AA man out, he checked the diagnostics and could not find any fault in the car, he thinks it something like the coilpack, HT leads of the distributer cap etc.
I just got home, starter her up and it sounds like a bloody tractor, terrible throttle response, the engine itself is jumping about so much and she is running on 3 cylinders by the sound of it which is probably why it is moving about so much.
Personally I think it is the coil pack but what do you guy think???
Any help is reallllly appreciated, I just want my car back up and running :/
Thanks,
Ben.M
P.s. Also there was a really strong smell of something singeing which none of us can really get our head around where it came from :/
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:51 am |
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First change the spark plugs. No 206 has HT leads or a distributor by the way 
Then if that doesn't solve it put a new coil pack on it.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:54 am |
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| CD-vRS wrote: |
First change the spark plugs. No 206 has HT leads or a distributor by the way
Then if that doesn't solve it put a new coil pack on it. |
No HT or distributer...great 
It has Bosch super 4s in at the moment and I have a spare set sitting here which is handy, if it is not the sparks then must it be the coilpack or is there anything else???
Thanks,
Ben.M
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:56 am |
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misfire could cause by many thing. but spark plug and coilpack is always a good started. injector could be one of the reason too.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:59 am |
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| Seabook wrote: |
| misfire could cause by many thing. but spark plug and coilpack is always a good started. injector could be one of the reason too. |
He did mention the injectors aswell, sorry forgot to mention that. Are the injectors something that I can personally check??? I've never done it before 
Ben.M
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:05 am |
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| Ben.M wrote: |
| Seabook wrote: |
| misfire could cause by many thing. but spark plug and coilpack is always a good started. injector could be one of the reason too. |
He did mention the injectors aswell, sorry forgot to mention that. Are the injectors something that I can personally check??? I've never done it before
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Unbolt the fuel rail.
Pull the injectors up & have someone turn the key so that the fuel pump primes. You should be able to see them squirting fuel.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:07 am |
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| CD-vRS wrote: |
| Ben.M wrote: |
| Seabook wrote: |
| misfire could cause by many thing. but spark plug and coilpack is always a good started. injector could be one of the reason too. |
He did mention the injectors aswell, sorry forgot to mention that. Are the injectors something that I can personally check??? I've never done it before
Ben.M |
Unbolt the fuel rail.
Pull the injectors up & have someone turn the key so that the fuel pump primes. You should be able to see them squirting fuel. |
That sounds simple enough, thanks very much, i'll keep you updated
Ben.M
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:07 am |
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| Seabook wrote: |
| misfire could cause by many thing. but spark plug and coilpack is always a good started. injector could be one of the reason too. |
I'm sure someone had a similar problem a few weeks ago and the timing belt had jumped on the sprocket. I can imagine the AA guys face when he was looking for the HT leads. I would get it checked for fault codes again, as it seems he didn't have a clue anyway.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:17 am |
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| macca1411 wrote: |
| Seabook wrote: |
| misfire could cause by many thing. but spark plug and coilpack is always a good started. injector could be one of the reason too. |
I'm sure someone had a similar problem a few weeks ago and the timing belt had jumped on the sprocket. I can imagine the AA guys face when he was looking for the HT leads. I would get it checked for fault codes again, as it seems he didn't have a clue anyway. |
Well i'll do whats been said on here first and then go from there I think :/,
Ben.M
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:57 am |
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Well my dad wants to get a new coil pack as he is 100% that it is the problem so where would I get 1 to fit a 1.1 2002 Look???
Ben.M
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:58 am |
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Eurocarparts, GSF or Peugeot.
Avoid Sagem ones.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:59 am |
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| CD-vRS wrote: |
Eurocarparts or Peugeot.
Avoid Sagem ones. |
Ok, i'll have a look, cheers,
Ben.M
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:46 am |
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Changed the spark plugs and no change :/, dads gonna try and go to eurocarparts tomorrow if he gets time to get a new coilpack.
Out of the ones we took out, plug 1 was fine, plug 2 was black but the soot just rubs off, plug 3 was fine but plug 4 was soaked in petrol so I think cylinder 4 is misfiring. Not sure why plug 2 was sooty tho :/,
Ben.M
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:57 am |
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| Ben.M wrote: |
Changed the spark plugs and no change :/, dads gonna try and go to eurocarparts tomorrow if he gets time to get a new coilpack.
Out of the ones we took out, plug 1 was fine, plug 2 was black but the soot just rubs off, plug 3 was fine but plug 4 was soaked in petrol so I think cylinder 4 is misfiring. Not sure why plug 2 was sooty tho :/,
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sooty plug means bad combustion.
could be weak spark, fault injector or low compression
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:09 pm |
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Do yourself a favour and don't run the engine until it's fixed. Misfiring engines have a habit of causing the cat to meltdown, as it cannot cope with high levels of unburnt fuel. You could just be heading to more expense.
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