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 Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:26 pm |
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I lowered the front of the 206 on Bilstein shocks with 40mm springs about 3 weeks ago. On Saturday I am gonna tackle the torsion bar (already on uprated Bilstein shocks). Only at the moment the car looks pretty level. If I drop the back end 40mm the front will be too high. So now I am considering getting lower springs, maybe 50 or 60mm.
I would like to know, at what drop would I start compromising performance for looks? As much as I would love no arch gap at all, I still want the best performance I can get.
Thanks 
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:29 pm |
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for street performance 40mm drop is nearly max out.
and Bilstein shocks won't take anything lower than that.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:31 pm |
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40mm is good, any lower is a compromise
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:31 pm |
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You are probably on the limit of performance, 50 and definately 60 is too low. Not saying that handling would be bad at 60, just not as good as 40.
And yeah don't lower 60mm on bilstein shocks.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:32 pm |
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Optical illusion. Standard height on 15inch is 133mm on front and back
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:33 pm |
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| Harry wrote: |
You are probably on the limit of performance, 50 and definately 60 is too low. Not saying that handling would be bad at 60, just not as good as 40.
And yeah don't lower 60mm on bilstein shocks. |
Debatable that sir
Im only 70/80 all round and its only the stretch that holds me back (but i must say they do perform bloody well in the dry)
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:36 pm |
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Ah right, thought that may be the case. I'll stick to the 40mm springs.
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| Optical illusion. Standard height on 15inch is 133mm on front and back |
Bizzare...Strange what the eyes do! I could of sworn the arch gaps are very similer. So if I pull the rear down 40mm it wont look odd?
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:37 pm |
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| Addaz wrote: |
| Harry wrote: |
You are probably on the limit of performance, 50 and definately 60 is too low. Not saying that handling would be bad at 60, just not as good as 40.
And yeah don't lower 60mm on bilstein shocks. |
Debatable that sir
Im only 70/80 all round and its only the stretch that holds me back (but i must say they do perform bloody well in the dry) |
You wish 
If I was doing it purely for performance, 45 would defnately be the max.
And bouncing off the bumpstops isn't good for performance as it isn't pushing the wheels into the floor as much as it should be 
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:37 pm |
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You are looking at the arch gap, stand back and look at the sill
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:41 pm |
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The term level is pretty meaningless. Being 'level' could mean the arches are level or the sills are level to the floor, both are very different.
If you want to compare there are lots here
206info.co.uk/Forums/v...30818.html
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:51 pm |
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| Harry wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
| Harry wrote: |
You are probably on the limit of performance, 50 and definately 60 is too low. Not saying that handling would be bad at 60, just not as good as 40.
And yeah don't lower 60mm on bilstein shocks. |
Debatable that sir
Im only 70/80 all round and its only the stretch that holds me back (but i must say they do perform bloody well in the dry) |
You wish
If I was doing it purely for performance, 45 would defnately be the max.
And bouncing off the bumpstops isn't good for performance as it isn't pushing the wheels into the floor as much as it should be |
Yeh cut bump stops didnt work for me 
Its the brake lines that go smash into the chassis now
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The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
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144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
Click to see more
For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:53 pm |
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| Addaz wrote: |
| Harry wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
| Harry wrote: |
You are probably on the limit of performance, 50 and definately 60 is too low. Not saying that handling would be bad at 60, just not as good as 40.
And yeah don't lower 60mm on bilstein shocks. |
Debatable that sir
Im only 70/80 all round and its only the stretch that holds me back (but i must say they do perform bloody well in the dry) |
You wish
If I was doing it purely for performance, 45 would defnately be the max.
And bouncing off the bumpstops isn't good for performance as it isn't pushing the wheels into the floor as much as it should be |
Yeh cut bump stops didnt work for me
Its the brake lines that go smash into the chassis now |
They aren't that important anyway 
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:09 pm |
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They aren't because he can only go 5mph because it just scrapes everywhere he goes
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:26 pm |
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Just adjust the torsion bar as needed. it can go whatever hight you want. Doing the springs again is pointless and will only be an inconvenience.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:17 pm |
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Joined: Feb 12, 2010
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I had 40mm springs on front and lowered 80mm at back. Its too low and sits like a shopping trolley. 60mm would def be max imo
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