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 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:08 pm |
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Hi all, im fitting angel eyes into my car, the car originally had frosted headlights in, where the dipped beam goes off when the main beam comes on (unless you flash when both come on at the same time)
SO i have correctly fitted a relay into the system and tested it out of the car (the headlights are not installed yet), so now when the main beam is turned on the dip beam is powered from the relay, meaning that both dipped beam and main beam are on at the same time.
however I have a question:
Currently when I flash with my frosted headlights the dip beam STAYS ON when the main beam comes on.
now with the relay in place when I flash with the angel eyes the cars existing system will be powering the dipped whilst the relay is also trying to power the dipped beam because it will sense that the main beam is on.
will this cause a short? or some kind of electrical problem.
can somebody with either angels or crystals fitted along with a relay confirm to me that when you flash (so both the cars wiring and the relay is attempting to power the dipped beam at the same time) it works ok?
I know its kind of confusing but to anyone who has fitted a relay to their lights you might understand, Thanks
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Last edited by MrrNoName on Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:30 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:13 pm |
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Just buy a stalk from me and get rid of the relays. Will work normally and takes under 3 minutes to fit [if your non-plexed]
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:16 pm |
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wanna keep my orig stalk thanks, do you know the answer to the q? lol
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:20 pm |
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| MrrNoName wrote: |
| wanna keep my orig stalk thanks, do you know the answer to the q? lol |
Its the same stalk on the outside, you wouldn't think any different. Just has more features 
Your relay is f****d. When you've installed it, you've shorted it at least once and the coil inside is knackered and sticking.
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:22 pm |
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what? the relay is working correctly 100% as it should, I have not yet fitted the headlights or attempted to flash anyone (as this would power the dipped beam from both the relay and the cars lighting circuit)
im simply asking a question as to what will happen when the dipped beam gets two positive power feeds at the same time, one from the original lighting circuit + one from the relay (this will happen when you flash someone)
will this cause a problem or not?
Basically I just one want someone with angels or crystals fitted to a pre-plexed 206 along with a Relay, to confirm that they can flash people without any problems
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Last edited by MrrNoName on Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:31 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:30 pm |
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It shouldn't get 2 positive feeds
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:33 pm |
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but it will for a split second, because when you flash someone the car attempts to put both the dipped and main on at the same time with a pre-plexed car.
so when you flash someone (or hold the stick in the flash position) in addition to the dipped and main beam already being on, the relay will notice that the main beam circuit has come on and will also attempt to power the dipped, but the dipped will already be on... so it will have two positive feeds
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:00 pm |
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Wire it up your way and risk the chance of doing considerable damage to the car or buy a stalk and have the job looking professional?
It's a no brainer really. Lee knows what he's talking about, but you seem insistant on doing it your way and ignoring all his advice.
Good luck.
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:18 pm |
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Do you know how a relay works?
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:32 pm |
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its wired up correctly, im not ignoring advice, many members on here have used a relay without changing their stalk, yes i know how a relay works, the main beam activates the relay which in turn powers the dipped beam, which is fine when the stalks either on main or dipped, my q is what happens when the pre-plexed stalk is in the "flash" position and powering both main and dipped, because the main beam is on the relay will also be attempting to power the dipped. the relay is wired up acording to northants ben's diagram
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:47 pm |
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Won't make a difference.
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:52 pm |
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so it will be fine in this situation? thts all i wanted to know before i fitted them and tried to flash someone
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:10 pm |
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If your worried, protect the circuit with a diode
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:10 am |
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just to finish the topic off, the angels are now fitted with the relay in place and it works fine.
when you flash the lights the relay and the cars wiring powers the dipped at the same time but this does not cause any problems, when the main beam are on, the dipped beam is now also on, all working fine
Just for anyone else wondering this in the future.
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