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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:47 am |
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Joined: Aug 10, 2011 Posts: 4
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Location: Highlands
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Hi...iam new to this site so its my first post..I have a 206 HDI 1.4 on a 04 plate...My main beam has totaly packed in.. I have run threw the suspects as in checked every fuse on the car under dash and under bonet.. I checked to see if power was geting to the buld at the pins. But there is no power on the plug I tuk out the buld and powered it on a 12v batterie and they work fine. so iam left thinking its a relay or a stalk problem..Has anyone come across the same thing b4....?
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:56 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 3935
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Nope i havnt, not sure were the relay would be on your headlights (crystals) but i think you are probably right with it being the relay!
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:59 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Posts: 11519
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Location: What's it to you? ? ?
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2004 car is multiplexed & the relay will either be inside the BSI unit OR it will be in the BM34 unit under the bonnet.
04 plate car should be sporting crystal front lights.
Make sure you are looking at the correct bulbs, main beam bulbs are the ones nearest the grill.
Turn the ignition OFF, now quickly pull the main beam stalk towards you for a second to activate the follow you home headlamp function.
Do the dipped beam headlights come on & stay on for 30 seconds?
If they DO then the stalk is fine.
If they DONT then start by rebooting the BSI unit.
Which plugs have you checked?
Black 2 pin plug on back of bulb OR the grey 3 pin plug on the actual headlamp?
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:43 am |
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Joined: Aug 10, 2011 Posts: 4
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Location: Highlands
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Hi...Ok i just went out side a heres what i did...Because of where i live i dont lock my car at night so dident have to use key fob...I just opend the door and flicled back the headlight stalk...The side lights came on NOT the dipped beam or the highbeam..... The pins i checked wer the 2 pin plug that gos to the mainbeam bulb..NO POWER i then tok the bulb out an tryed it on a batterie and it works fine..before i sent this message i went back outside and tryed again and nothing happens...I will check it again dure in the day at work and get back to you guys tonight...thanks for takeing the time to help..
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:27 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Posts: 11519
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You should ALWAYS lock the car with the remote fob so the BSI unit goes to sleep correctly.
Leaving it just unlocked allows the BSI to time out & go in to economy mode instead of going to sleep, if the BSI software crashes while in economy mode your basically stuffed.
Reboot the BSI unit & then lock the car with the fob instead of leaving it unlocked.
Also have a look at the grey 3 pin plug on the actual headlamp, those 3 wires are the feed in for both the dipped & main beam bulbs.
The short bulb wiring harness inside the headlamp has been known to fail before, check the grey plug for voltage / earth in to the headlamp.
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:30 am |
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Joined: Aug 10, 2011 Posts: 4
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Location: Highlands
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Morning guys.. Ive taken everthing on board and iam goining to impliment it all today at work...Ive tryed Flicking the stak sevral times over the last few days and nothing hapens..so i guess the bsi unit is to blame..more reason for thinking this is because i installed an after market stereo recently..but dident think that was the problem as the main beam worked for a week or 2 after i fitted it...any ways iam guna try the reboot today ...ill let you know tonight the outcome....cheers
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:15 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2632
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Location: Rugby,Warwickshire
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I once had a problem with the main beam not lighting I found it was 2 issues
1) I have morettes and they have a ground wire, the ground wire needed replacing as it wasn't a good connection (wiggled it and lights would work for a little then switch off)
2) after playing around with power on the main beams wouldn't light at all, I blew a 15a fuse. This is under the bonnet. I have heard that sometimes the fuses can blow but they don't show any evidence.
Your problem to me sounds more like a fuse
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:47 am |
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Joined: Feb 14, 2010 Posts: 1029
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Location: Chester, UK
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Shouldn't be a dodgy earth, he said he has investigated, and there's no power going in, presuming he used a earthing point on the chassis of the car, it shouldn't be that.
Use the "Half split" technique using the wiring diagrams in haynes?
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:41 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Posts: 11519
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deemanchild wrote: |
Ive tryed Flicking the stak sevral times over the last few days and nothing hapens..so i guess the bsi unit is to blame |
If the reboot, checking the fuses & wiring doesnt cure it.
Id go for the com2000 unit, the BSI on a multiplexed car dont really ever go wrong.
Its normally people messing around with the wiring not knowing what there doing that kills BSI's.
Try & find someone with Peugeot planet or other suitable diagnostic kit to scan the BSI unit & test the com unit.
Peugeot Planet is the best / quickest way of finding the fault on this
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:54 am |
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Joined: Aug 10, 2011 Posts: 4
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Location: Highlands
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OK heres the update...Tryed the reboot 5 times i even unpluged the amp and unpluged the stereo..on the 5th atemt so as there was no power to any other devices... But its made no diffrence what so ever..BUGGER..
I allso tested the 3pin plug to the head lights and got no power for main beam..only dipped beam showed power on the test unit... So next iam guna try the com2000 unit..once i work out what that is..lol..Ill also try the "Half split" technique..and ill get it on the diagnostic as well...Ive checked every fuse on the car with a votage test unit both sides of the fuse to...
Ill get back to everone as soon as ive tryed all these things...Thanks again guys !!
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:28 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Posts: 11519
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Com 2000 unit is the indicator / wiper stalks assembly, its one big lump.
Drivers airbag & steering wheel need to be removed to replace it.
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