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 Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:41 am |
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Hi all.
My next question is about the clutch. I have read on here that the clutch is self adjusting, I'm wondering if there is any manual adjusting on it at all?
When I let the clutch out it travells nearly all the way to the top before it catches. Is this a sign that it's on it's way out?
BTW it's a 2004 SW 1.4 with 57000 miles.
Thanks again (in advance).
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:44 am |
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The self adjustor is on the clutch cable.
A TU clutch if treated with respect shouldnt really ever need replacing, it should outlive the rest of the car.
They can / do fail but only normally if abused.
LUK, Sachs or Valeo if it needs a clutch kit.
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:00 am |
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For a 1.4 i doubt this is a self adjusting clutch.
As for outliving the car if treated correctly (i doubt it) I know people who work at LuK near Sheffield and they only guarantee the clutches for 100,000 miles only. This includes parts supplied directly to the engine plant manufactures for Citroen/Peugeot.
Don't forget guys, a clutch is a wearing part just like brakes. it cannot last forever.
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:06 am |
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| smileysue wrote: |
| For a 1.4 i doubt this is a self adjusting clutch. |
The clutch cable is self adjusting
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As for outliving the car if treated correctly (i doubt it) I know people who work at LuK near Sheffield and they only guarantee the clutches for 100,000 miles only. This includes parts supplied directly to the engine plant manufactures for Citroen/Peugeot.
Don't forget guys, a clutch is a wearing part just like brakes. it cannot last forever. |
A TU1 / TU3 clutch will & has been proven many times to outlive the car IF looked after / used correctly, they will do 100K + miles easily if not abused.
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:48 am |
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Thanks guys. So at 57k it shouldn't be on it's way out.
But Can it be adjusted manually?? As I said it's not catching until the pedal is nearly all the way out.
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:37 pm |
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| elted wrote: |
| Thanks guys. So at 57k it shouldn't be on it's way out. |
That depends on the previous owner / owners.
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But Can it be adjusted manually?? As I said it's not catching until the pedal is nearly all the way out. |
No, if you think the adjustor has failed then fit a new clutch cable, there about £32 from any Peugeot / Citroen main dealer last time I looked.
I get the feeling its not far of wanting a clutch kit.
Most 206's are driven by women / young people, that doesnt spell good news for the clutch 
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:39 pm |
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| MrBSI wrote: |
Most 206's are driven by women / young people, that doesnt spell good news for the clutch |
your brave 
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Last edited by NorthantsBen on Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:41 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:41 pm |
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you can destroy a good clutch in less than a 1/4 miles.
or it can probably last longer than most 206 in the market.
people just too afraid to stall at light so they just hold their clutch keep rolling forward and backward; seen that too many times
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:44 pm |
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| NorthantsBen wrote: |
| MrBSI wrote: |
Most 206's are driven by women / young people, that doesnt spell good news for the clutch |
your brave |
Its so rare to find a woman / young person with mechanical sympathy
End of the day people like that keep the garages in work 
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:17 pm |
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Thanks for your replys.
I think mrBSI might be correct, new clutch required in the not too distant future. I dont think it's the cable, pedal works fine.
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:56 am |
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LUK / Sachs / Valeo for the clutch kit.
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:08 am |
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Noted.
Thanks again.
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:52 am |
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Its a little difficult to explain in words without diagrams but here goes.
first imagine a hill going up one side then down the other.
For a conventional clutch, the wear point starts about a quarter from the top of the hill when new, it reaches its optimum (Best) when it gets to the top of the hill and starts to show signs of wear went its about a quarter of the way down from the top. The biting point starts moving to the top of the pedal travel, then slipping will start after this point and gradually get worse util there is no drive to the wheels.
Slipping or wear can occur at any time depending on the driver, We have clutches with as little as 300 recorded miles slipping due to driver abuse. Mainly riding clutch or traffic light drag starts.
A self adjusting clutch does exactly what it says on the tin, it self adjusts so that it is at its optimum point from the first press of the pedal when new and there is no shifting of the biting point. Once the clutch is worn and the is no more adjustment the slipping will start with no warning and probably fail without warning. (ie no movement of the biting point to the top of the pedal)
As stated earlier, it make no difference to the mileage of the car. A Clutch is a part on the car that wares out and is very unlikely to outlive the car.
Why do you think no one ever fits a second hand clutch.
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:12 am |
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| A self adjusting clutch does exactly what it says on the tin, it self adjusts so that it is at its optimum point from the first press of the pedal when new and there is no shifting of the biting point. Once the clutch is worn and the is no more adjustment the slipping will start with no warning and probably fail without warning. (ie no movement of the biting point to the top of the pedal) |
Therefore you're saying; because my clutch is self adjusting (and not slipping). The fact that the biting point is high is Not a sign that it is coming to it's eol?
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:29 am |
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It sounds like a new clutch kit to me. Are you sure its a self adjusting kit your after. I didnt think the 1.4 was a self adjusting clutch kit?
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