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 Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:26 pm |
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Location: Leyland, Lancashire
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Recently there hasnt been a very good conection on my interior light. i have to twiddle the switch to get it to come on sometimes. so i set about taking the switch out and bending the terminals back a little. I did this with the engine running not really thinking of the damage that could be done...
i saw a spark as i was plugging the light back so somthing shorted but then the engine cut out and i lost all the ignition.
when i turned the key no ignition came on, no lights on the dash, no reley clicks like usual, no starter motor!
The radio still works, the side lights and dipped etc all work.
Checked all fuses all good. going to get tester on tmoz jus to be sure.
One thing i learnt a while back was if you wire the constant battery to the ignition live together behind the radio the ingition comes and stays on without the key in.
So i tried that and everything came on! turned the key and it started. (got home int end :)) so now every time i wanna go somewhere im going to have to hot wire my own car just to go somewhere (don't fancy that!)
my worst fear is that I fried some electrical jibberinsh somewhere ont car.
please help 
2004 1.4 HDI
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:46 pm |
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so this is what happens in multi-plexed cars? I've had same problem with light but it was just bulb and do some electronics now and then even with engine on sometimes but the worse that has happened.. is just a blown fuse nothing more serious.
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:38 am |
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It should be a fuse.
Worse case is you've shorted your BSI
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:43 am |
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What can be done if I've shorted the BSI? Is it a new one?
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:46 am |
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Yes its a new one, off the top of my head its around the £250 mark plus coding into the car
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:51 am |
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As lee said fuses often trip the immobiliser.
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:53 am |
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| Addaz wrote: |
| Yes its a new one, off the top of my head its around the £250 mark plus coding into the car |
Cheaper and easier to buy second hand and swap 95160
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:15 am |
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| Addaz wrote: |
| Yes its a new one, off the top of my head its around the £250 mark plus coding into the car |
£335 ish for a new BSI from Pug dealer & then the coding on top.
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:32 am |
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sounds like a fuse to me, i did a similar thing on my old 1.1... make sure any wires you touched are in exactly the same place too cause i found after wiring up some extra internal lighting a few years back i had done something that caused the ignition to remain constantly on
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:01 am |
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£332.92 + £70 an hour in labour for telecoding
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:26 am |
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| Lee wrote: |
| £332.92 + £70 an hour in labour for telecoding |
and someone said the phrase "its cheap enough from Peugeot"...
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:29 am |
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| Rob2859 wrote: |
| Lee wrote: |
| £332.92 + £70 an hour in labour for telecoding |
and someone said the phrase "its cheap enough from Peugeot"... |
A new light unit would have been cheap enough from any Peugeot / Citroen main dealer 
Im actually surprised we dont have more dead BSI units on here from people dicking around with things they know nothing about.
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:38 am |
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| MrBSI wrote: |
| Rob2859 wrote: |
| Lee wrote: |
| £332.92 + £70 an hour in labour for telecoding |
and someone said the phrase "its cheap enough from Peugeot"... |
A new light unit would have been cheap enough from any Peugeot / Citroen main dealer
Im actually surprised we dont have more dead BSI units on here from people dicking around with things they know nothing about. |
I was revering to when its been said about a BSI. Peugeot have not done too badly then. Even most mechanics know nothing about how Peugeot electrics work.
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:59 am |
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| Rob2859 wrote: |
| MrBSI wrote: |
| Rob2859 wrote: |
| Lee wrote: |
| £332.92 + £70 an hour in labour for telecoding |
and someone said the phrase "its cheap enough from Peugeot"... |
A new light unit would have been cheap enough from any Peugeot / Citroen main dealer
Im actually surprised we dont have more dead BSI units on here from people dicking around with things they know nothing about. |
I was revering to when its been said about a BSI. Peugeot have not done too badly then. Even most mechanics know nothing about how Peugeot electrics work. |
No idea why not, all cars are canbus these days.
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:00 am |
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PSA Peugeot / Citroen where one of the first car manufactures to use CAN / multiplexing, was only really Mercedes that used it any earlier.
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