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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:39 am |
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Joined: Dec 22, 2011 Posts: 5
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So I took my partners Gti180 for a spin the other night and couldnt help but think 'it must have something up with it'
It feels flat as a turd, torqueless with no real fizz up the higher revs?
I myself have a Ph1 Clio 172, and it would utterly shame the 206 in a straight line (and the corners )... Leading me to again think there's something wrong with the 206??
It doesnt have any running issues at all, no management lights etc... It just isnt packing as much of a punch as I would expect.
Do these suffer any blind problems? VVT Solenoid packed up or along those lines??
Cheers
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:59 am |
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Joined: Nov 28, 2011 Posts: 411
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If the vvt was playing up you would get beaten by a 1.0l micra. Has it had a good service at all?
If the timing belt has been replace by someone who dont know what they are doing that can throw the performance out the window too
cannot really think of anythink else other than maybe a blocked cat?
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:17 am |
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Joined: Feb 10, 2010 Posts: 904
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Location: Little hulton (worsley)
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Happend to mine twice once when it was serviced with Ngk plugs instead and once when the vvt sensor broke.
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:18 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Posts: 11519
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Awaits the " whats wrong with NGK plugs " question for the 50000000000th time on here
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:20 am |
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MrBSI wrote: |
Awaits the " whats wrong with NGK plugs " question for the 50000000000th time on here |
I ran NGK for 50k in my xsi over 4 years and not once had a problem
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:24 am |
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HDI90 wrote: |
MrBSI wrote: |
Awaits the " whats wrong with NGK plugs " question for the 50000000000th time on here |
I ran NGK for 50k in my xsi over 4 years and not once had a problem |
One of the lucky few then
Plenty of people on here over the years have had lots of problems running NGK plugs in 206's
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:57 am |
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Joined: Oct 03, 2010 Posts: 136
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ill be the one to ask... NGK problems?
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:03 pm |
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Joined: Aug 20, 2011 Posts: 271
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Im pretty sure the plugs in my 180 are NGK i dont have a problem with them, although they were the ones that came in the car so not really got anything to compare them to
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:38 pm |
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ramigojag wrote: |
Im pretty sure the plugs in my 180 are NGK i dont have a problem with them, although they were the ones that came in the car so not really got anything to compare them to |
Old wifes tail that foats around here
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:42 pm |
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HDI90 wrote: |
ramigojag wrote: |
Im pretty sure the plugs in my 180 are NGK i dont have a problem with them, although they were the ones that came in the car so not really got anything to compare them to |
Old wifes tail that foats around here |
No my 180 actually felt like 1.1 with Ngk swapped for bosch and was back to normal.
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:46 pm |
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Joined: Dec 22, 2011 Posts: 5
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I think I'll give it a good service and go from there.
I would have imagined if the cambelt was done by some monkey, It be having more serious issues than slightly flat performance?
Perhaps run a diag over it also, see if it picks up any faults.
Is it worth taking the vvt solenoid out and cleaning it up (judging by searches on here) or is that just a place-bo thing on these?
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:49 pm |
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NICKST wrote: |
HDI90 wrote: |
ramigojag wrote: |
Im pretty sure the plugs in my 180 are NGK i dont have a problem with them, although they were the ones that came in the car so not really got anything to compare them to |
Old wifes tail that foats around here |
No my 180 actually felt like 1.1 with Ngk swapped for bosch and was back to normal. |
why did peugeot put them in then? ive know alot of ew10 engines running the no problem at all
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:55 pm |
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Joined: Dec 22, 2011 Posts: 5
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Its quite funny as the Renault F7R is quite the opposite.
It came with NGK's and must only use NGK's, Bosch Super 4's are a big NO with them.
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:49 pm |
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Cherry180 wrote: |
Its quite funny as the Renault F7R is quite the opposite.
It came with NGK's and must only use NGK's, Bosch Super 4's are a big NO with them. |
Most PSA engines do too but some say they are the devil, ive never had a problem in any peugeot ive had running NGK,S in the past 12 years
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:03 pm |
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Joined: Feb 10, 2010 Posts: 904
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Location: Little hulton (worsley)
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HDI90 wrote: |
NICKST wrote: |
HDI90 wrote: |
ramigojag wrote: |
Im pretty sure the plugs in my 180 are NGK i dont have a problem with them, although they were the ones that came in the car so not really got anything to compare them to |
Old wifes tail that foats around here |
No my 180 actually felt like 1.1 with Ngk swapped for bosch and was back to normal. |
why did peugeot put them in then? ive know alot of ew10 engines running the no problem at all |
I do not now why they did because the Peugeot dealer I worked for didn't even stock ngk plugs just Bosch.
You wont no the differnce If you have all ways used Ngk unless you try the Bosch.
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focus st 3 with pro alloy intercooler, 3" mongoose down pipe, 200 cell sports cat and mongoose cat back, collins bov, dreamscience dsci cold air intake,focus rs injectors,focus rs oil cooler,dreamscience dsci tuneing platform mod X map,focus rs clutch & flywheel, rs fuel pump, polly bushes in wish bones rear axal and suspension white line front and rear arb, eibach pro street s suspension. | |
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