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 Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:39 pm |
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Basically, ive had the car nearly a year and ive replaced the gearbox twice, the unfortunate thing is that it has gone again, leaving it stuck in gear and a huge puddle of oil in tesco car park...
Ive been paying anything from 250-375 for the gearbox's so its really starting to add up..
my questions are:
1. Has anyone got pictures of the gearbox mounted up on there 1.1, 1.4, 1.6 8v or gti motors so i can see if the mountings are all the same
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2. Are the gearboxs interchangeable throughout the range? as i could get a 1.1 box for like 60 quid at my local scrappy...
Ive seen people fit the jp4 engine into 106 gtis and rallyes n stuff n im sure ive seen people fit 1.3 rallye boxes to them?
So basically im wanting to know if i could go and get any 206 box and wack it on, even though it would alter gear ratios and what not, i wouldnt mind that
Any help appreciated
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:45 pm |
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Im having the same trouble at the mo with my car. ive asked the same question to a couple of mechanics and they said ideally you need to get the same box. this doesnt help i know but i cant get a better answer my self
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:47 pm |
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The TU, ET and DV4 lumps are MA boxes
The DW, EW and DV6 are BE boxes
The ratios will be different if you get one from a different engine, but they will fit.
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:49 pm |
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ino ive been told that from a pug specialist with a reply along the lines of no a 50 quid box wont fit, you need a 350 quid box instead, whcih i just so hapen to have here..
which i rekon is bull s**t...
if people can run them in saxos n 106's they wont run a 206 box with it, so im going to post on sax-p also see what boxes people run..
i arent paying £350 for another box when im wanting to sell the car 
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:50 pm |
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| Lee wrote: |
The TU, ET and DV4 lumps are MA boxes
The DW, EW and DV6 are BE boxes
The ratios will be different if you get one from a different engine, but they will fit. |
wow wow hold up, im lost with all the code speak 
simplyfy for me cause im a retard
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:55 pm |
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You have a 1.6 16v? Yes?
Any box from a 1.1, 1.4 8v, 1.4 16v, 1.6 8v, 1.6 16v and 1.4 HDi will fit.
But they all have slightly different ratios depending on the engine. The HDi will be miles out with it being a derv.
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:56 pm |
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all mountings and driveshafts the same etc?
had a quick click on your parts for sale post.. you have any low mileage boxes going cheap?
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:27 pm |
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the same....
you will need to make sure the one you get run hydraulic clutch.
As 106/saxo box run cable clutch.
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:30 pm |
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ah yea forgot about that... is there any 1.4/1.6's that run hydraulic? searching ebay and all the 1.4/1.6 8 valvers are all cable type like in early 106 n saxos
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:48 pm |
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Sorry for double post..
but i have another question...
1. Are the linkages the same on all the boxes below:
"Any box from a 1.1, 1.4 8v, 1.4 16v, 1.6 8v, 1.6 16v and 1.4 HDi will fit."
2. How hard would it be to convert my hyraulic clutch to cable? would it just be a case of blank off the pipe from master cyclinder and then fit a cable box, cable and cable type clutch pedal?
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:41 pm |
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Bump
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:31 am |
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There is a guy who is thinking of buying an xsi for £500. If he splits it I'd buy the whole engine and replace it.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:40 am |
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Needs to be a MA gearbox as Lee said and you need one with the right linkage (yours should be rod). Look on the saxo forum there is a table with all the gear ratios on it.
Not much in it with most of the ratios, the rallye boxes are quite a bit shorter but hard to get and most are probably worn out. I wanted one but could find one near me.
Also how do you mange to break so many? In my first year of driving I abused my box and wheel spun it all the time but it only broke just recently. The planet gears fell out and there was a bit of play in some bearings. Only cost me £175
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:52 am |
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| Rob2859 wrote: |
Needs to be a MA gearbox as Lee said and you need one with the right linkage (yours should be rod). Look on the saxo forum there is a table with all the gear ratios on it.
Not much in it with most of the ratios, the rallye boxes are quite a bit shorter but hard to get and most are probably worn out. I wanted one but could find one near me.
Also how do you mange to break so many? In my first year of driving I abused my box and wheel spun it all the time but it only broke just recently. The planet gears fell out and there was a bit of play in some bearings. Only cost me £175 |
it is close because it run 4.54 final drive, most 106 use the same gearset ratio.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:01 pm |
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| Seabook wrote: |
| Rob2859 wrote: |
Needs to be a MA gearbox as Lee said and you need one with the right linkage (yours should be rod). Look on the saxo forum there is a table with all the gear ratios on it.
Not much in it with most of the ratios, the rallye boxes are quite a bit shorter but hard to get and most are probably worn out. I wanted one but could find one near me.
Also how do you mange to break so many? In my first year of driving I abused my box and wheel spun it all the time but it only broke just recently. The planet gears fell out and there was a bit of play in some bearings. Only cost me £175 |
it is close because it run 4.54 final drive, most 106 use the same gearset ratio. |
That is the one. Didn't quite remember it correctly. I actually got a box with a 4.54 ratio but it was noisy turning it around and the oil that was in the bottom was grey and full of crap so I didn't bother putting it in.
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