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 Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:53 am |
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Believe me if its the dpf it will become a hollow box and then a map. which will incorperate more power. so not gonna lose ouy that say. plus should not cost much.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:55 am |
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What do you mean a map? If you mean you'r going to remap the engine ECU it wont fix the issue's in there the DPF has caused.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:18 pm |
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A few weeks ago the sugestions from here were to take the dpf off and sort the ecu so that it will no longer try and do a regen or through up any faults relating to it, also by playing with the ecu you can map it at the same time.thats what i mean by mapping it out. also the fault has gone now! must have been the 50mph drive.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:26 pm |
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Location: Scotland
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| vauxfan wrote: |
| It has to look lile it is there. current mots will not fail it. but ithas to appear to be there on cars that came with it new. some 206s did not. so shouldn't be a problem. map it out. is that not a term for telling the csr not to read the sesors. |
If YOUR 206 left the factory with a DPF, it must be present for the MOT.
Doesn't matter what other models left the factory with, it's your car being tested.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:38 pm |
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Location: york
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Not entirely true. your car has to look like it has a pdf. they have been advised to not refuse any diesel car that they only suspect migjt have the dpf smashed out. as diesels pass emisions with out eithrr. and you can in theory build a sheild around you exhaust and they are not aloud to remove it!
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:44 pm |
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this is true....
as the mot tester handbook mention is "obviously missing"; so if the casting is still there they can't tell by naked eye
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:28 pm |
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this is a direct quote from the mot hand book, it is not to say however that things won't change in the future
The fitment of a catalytic converter to petrol engine vehicles is mandatory for vehicles of the specified age and type e.g. passenger car, goods etc. The MOT Inspection Manual can therefore specify exactly what petrol engine vehicles must have a catalyst fitted.
However, whilst diesel engine vehicles are required to meet certain emissions limits for Type Approval, the method used to achieve this is not specified. It was left to the engine manufacturer to decide how to meet Euro 3, 4, 5 etc emissions standards.
For this reason, testers would be unable to readily determine which vehicles are OE fitted with a Diesel Oxidation Catalyst (DOC), Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) or Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) system.
It was therefore considered that the introduction of a Reason for Rejection for a missing diesel catalyst at this stage, whilst complying with the Directive, was likely to lead to many incorrect failures, which is clearly unacceptable.
The matter is under review and may therefore change in the future.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:23 pm |
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| vauxfan wrote: |
| The matter is under review and may therefore change in the future. |
Thats the key line, its ok saying that then or now, but it could change tomorrow.
I had/have a Hdi Gti, i was going to get the dpf removed and remapped for £400 from somewhere in Keighley, but seeing as i crashed it, there's no point now. 
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:25 pm |
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i rang that place i think! for got the name but they quoted me £280. but i didn't want a replacment pipe, i want a dpf looking pipe with the map.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:35 pm |
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Yeah i cant remember what i asked for, but got quoted £400, but as the car is sitting on the drive looking sorry for itself, its not going to happen now.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:39 pm |
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take the dpf off and give to me..... lol
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:44 pm |
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Its blocked Didnt affect the drive at all tho. One of reasons i bought a new car, got a petrol one, wish id gone for another diesel, was put off by the dpf because mines blocked. Altho, not sure on how bad the damage is to mine, so might getit back on the road and flog the new motor. Or just sell it as it is for a knock down price.
I know the hdi gti has its problems, the dpf, the flywheel,but i loved mine Drove great 
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:51 pm |
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but asalready said, get the dpf internally removed, map it and fit a revised dmfor single flywheel and i bet it will be a better car than alot of new 1s, the diesel gti isn't slow for a 1.6 as is. so with the extra mods i bet the car would be a little gem. better than any 1.4 petrol that has as similar tax and insurance comparison
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:58 pm |
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My mechanic thought mine was mapped already, said it was overly quick. i thought it was just the car. Get no argument out of me, i think they are great.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:10 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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| Squeaker wrote: |
| My mechanic thought mine was mapped already, said it was overly quick. i thought it was just the car. Get no argument out of me, i think they are great. |
I'd still have the 2.0HDi any day.
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