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 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:49 pm |
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When I bought my car it had an after market fuel cover/lock, so I needed a differant key to fill up
I bought a SP fuel cap but the after market barrell lock was one piece so i bought an oem lock from the scrappy with key and used that.
It didn't occur to me untill I put the car through MOT and noticed the mechanic using the ignition key to unlock the fuel cap.
How is that possible? The ammount of combinations of keys must be huge, whats the odds on there being two 206's with the same cut blades.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:55 pm |
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isnt possible there shouldnt be any other car you can access with your key but this did happen with toyota in 2010 and the company was sued after this mistake was corrected
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:37 pm |
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Myself and a mate went to a scrapyard for a new 206 passenger door and finally found one in the same colour, he thought lets try the key for no apparent reason at all and it fitted!
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:34 pm |
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I think maybe you should report this and take legal action against peugeot as they are not aloud to sell replica keys / locks to be used on different cars hmm maybe find evidence of this and take it to a newspaper they had a field day with toyota 
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:39 am |
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| 138Andy wrote: |
| I think maybe you should report this and take legal action against peugeot as they are not aloud to sell replica keys / locks to be used on different cars hmm maybe find evidence of this and take it to a newspaper they had a field day with toyota |
Unless the OP's car is brand new, & I presume it's not, keys & locks wear so not that un common. & definetly no grounds for legal action.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:47 am |
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There isn't that many combinations.
Like E5 said, the wear will be able the same so as long as the blades are similar it will work.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:59 am |
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| QuArTz wrote: |
It didn't occur to me untill I put the car through MOT and noticed the mechanic using the ignition key to unlock the fuel cap.
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The fuel cap lock barrel isnt going to be as secure / have as many operating levers inside as a door lock / ignition barrel.
Same basic design of key blade / lock ( made by 2 different manufacturers ) has been in use by Peugeot since the mid 1980's & remember that Renault have used it to along with the Vauxhall van's that are Renault based.
These days the mechanical lock isnt important, a deadlocked 206 can be opened easily enough without causing any damage, its the electronic immobiliser thats built in to stop car theft.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:27 am |
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In the 70s/80s you only needed 1 of 5 keys and you could open and start the engine of any Ford.
If you think about it logically, if the number of vehicles Peugeot or any other manufacturer have sold each need a completely different key, the piece of metal you would be carrying around would be 6 foot long, just so they could make each cut a different depth and distance apart.
Even Yale and Mortice keys have duplicate combinations.
Keyless entry is the way forward, but even that won't be 100% secure. What we need is for an electronics buff on here to come up with a way of retrofitting keyless entry onto a 206 using the immo chip that is already in the key as the trigger. Any idea if this can be done Lee?
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:39 am |
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| macca1411 wrote: |
Keyless entry is the way forward, but even that won't be 100% secure. What we need is for an electronics buff on here to come up with a way of retrofitting keyless entry onto a 206 using the immo chip that is already in the key as the trigger. Any idea if this can be done Lee? |
Nothing really wrong with the remote central locking system.
Even if you removed the lock barrel from a 206 door you can still open it even if deadlocked easily enough without causing damage if you know what your doing.
I doubt you would be able to get keyless entry working on the standard Peugeot components, just look at Ford, they cant even get the Focus keyless entry system to work correctly & they designed it 
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:45 am |
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i'll have to catch the people that broke into my dads berlingo. They apparently had a device that triggered the remote central locking :S
Did it on all the cars in my parents row.
Could be some money in it lol
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:23 am |
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Ill tell you something, i went down asda's about 2 weeks ago and as i was walking away from my car i pressed the lock for the central locking, and another 206 parked about 3 down had its alarm set off from my key?
I came out of asda and did it again! Why does this happen? Next time i see it im going to wait for the owner to come out the press it 
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