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 Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:10 pm |
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I had my DPF removed today, professional and at a cost of £400, DPF was drilled out, and can left in place, DPF and all related functions removed form the BSI,
i now have an anti-pollution fault warning on the MFD, and the engine management light illuminated on my dash, obviously this will be rectified by avontuning.
but is the car safe to drive in the mean time, as i will have to drive it to them (a 40odd mile drive, down the m4).
as i use the car daily this obviously puts me out somewhat, with it being a bank holiday weekend.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:52 am |
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looks like the job wasn't done professionally then
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:18 am |
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I've read on other forums that DPF removal is a tricky thing on the Pugs - That's what deterred me from doing it.
From what I've read, it can take a few attempts before the car agrees to part with the DPF (or FAP lol). Not sure about whether it's driveable, but I'm sure googling the problem willhelp to uncover whether you're able to drive it or not, I imagine that many people have experienced the same problems, since that 1.6 hdi is fitted to LOADS of PSA cars.
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| 206 1.6 hdi 110:\r\nStage 1 remap to 140bhp + 220lbft | |
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 4:46 am |
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£400!! you've had your pants down 
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:05 am |
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I had mine done with no probs.
Take it back and get them to do it properly.
Did you get it tuned at the same time?
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:38 am |
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| Seabook wrote: |
| looks like the job wasn't done professionally then |
it was, its another issue thats flagging the anti-polution fault.
| nellyhaggis wrote: |
I had mine done with no probs.
Take it back and get them to do it properly.
Did you get it tuned at the same time? |
i did talk it back today, fault code read, and coming up with a turbo preasure issue, its output is 2470mb (yes im well aware the it can only go up to 1400mb), so there is something else wrong.
it was mapped down to 130bhp, i got about 1 mile away before it flagged the same issue, so back to a std map of 110bhp, but interestingly the code that is the issue is
P0238 - turbo sensor a circuit high
will have to check what this actually means when i get home from work, unless someone answers in the meantime. but i have been told once this error is corrected, the car will be mapped back up to a stage 1 (140bhp, 60nm more torque, 7+mpg more), so its off to my mechanic of wednesday, to have it looked at.
fyi fault is still registering on both dash and MFD, but car drives fine, and pulls better.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:51 am |
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did he ever done this before?
i believe the mapper has to adjusted the boost after removing the FAP or it will blow the turbo/ throw out fault code due to the increase in exhuast gas flow
or i believe Lee has got a better answer for this
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:59 am |
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this is what he does all day long, dpf removal after dpf removal, his co-workers car is also a 206 HDi GTi running insane power and boost, and by insane i mean he's killed several turbos.
as for the boost it was adjusted in map, so it was running right, i actually had the car back in swindon, and was driving ok till the anti-polution fault kicked in, just googled it and it seems it could be the anything from the turbo itself, via the turbo vac pipe, to the turbo solinoid. so i think ill just have to wait till my friend can have a look at it, unless like i said someone has a better idea of what this actually points to.
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:10 am |
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just a quick update on the DPF issue,
took it to my friend who removed the turbo sensor, cleaned it, and reconnected it, cleared the code, i took it away and drove it for 300miles before it flagged the fault again. so as i had bought a new sensor, i swapped it out and drove again for another 300 odd miles before it appeared again.
so on sunday i took it back to avontuning, to get it mapped back up to a stage 1 tune, before doing so he checked for fault codes, same one there P0238, this time i have a the screen from pug planet :
screen from pug planet showing the turbo preassure reading at 2470mbar
so this was cleared and remap done, it has yet to flag the fault, i have done some 75miles so ill see how it goes when it passes 300, lol
i thought id check the pipework to the sensor, to see if that was causing an issue
this is what i found on remiving this pipe from just after the intercooler.
i have made sure it is fitted correctly, with no bits caught, i did also note it was very oily in there (im aware there will be a small amount of oil), so for now the problem seems fixed  :)
p.s. does anyone know if you can get sillicone hoses for this car, samco or other ???
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:04 pm |
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Is it seriously kicking out 2 and a half bars of boost? Or am I misreading that!
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:46 pm |
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| unstabletable wrote: |
| Is it seriously kicking out 2 and a half bars of boost? Or am I misreading that! |
Lmao, according to the sensor yes, but in reality if it were to do that it would probably blow the turbo, and the engine apart as the most the t15 varible vane turbo can take is 1400mbar, so there is an obvious fault there somewhere.
Interestingly, since stripping out the air doser, all pipework around it, giving it a good clean it seems to be running better. Still chucking out black smoke, it has yet to flag the P0238 fault, and I have been driving it harder than normal.
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:53 pm |
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I did think somewhere near 40psi was quite impressive/practically impossible!
Back to the original post, for 400 notes I'd have expected the map as part of the package, its not the biggest job in the world to remove the filter.
Did they just take it off, drill a hole and replace, or did they do something extra?
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:54 pm |
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forgot to add - was taking the Doser off an easy trick? (looks like just a few hex screws)
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:18 am |
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| unstabletable wrote: |
I did think somewhere near 40psi was quite impressive/practically impossible!
Back to the original post, for 400 notes I'd have expected the map as part of the package, its not the biggest job in the world to remove the filter.
Did they just take it off, drill a hole and replace, or did they do something extra?
forgot to add - was taking the Doser off an easy trick? (looks like just a few hex screws) |
lol, and the map was part of the deal, its just with my sensor bing a bugger, i wanted to try and save the turbo so had it mapped to original while i got that sorted.
the air doser is actually quite easy to remove, the rubber mount at the base of mine is broken so mine just pulled off. however the correct way is the remove the 2 10mm nuts, which hole the metal support plate, then remover the torx screw (can be accessed by the underside of the unit) it should then just unclip, after you have removed all connecting pipes and sensor wires of course
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:34 pm |
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Cheers for that - I did think it was simple, just wanted to check (not put my head under the bonnet for a while)
That's not a bad deal in my opinion then! Aside from your symptoms, how is the drive?
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