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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:04 pm |
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Joined: Jun 15, 2011 Posts: 100
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Location: Wales
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Hi, i have a 12 yr old 206 GTI and runs fairly good, i just wondered if anyone out there has performance modded an old GTi and is there much to be had out of the old engine ?
I heard the old 138 engines are pretty much bulletproof as its a simple design is that true as mines on 95k ?
I would rather mod my old GTi as parts are cheap to replace and its a good car !!
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:19 pm |
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Joined: Jan 26, 2010 Posts: 3432
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Location: Kent
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You ask thatquestion on a 206 forum.... The answer will be yes....
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:27 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2632
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Location: Rugby,Warwickshire
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Ask the insurance first tell them of what you are doing.
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:01 pm |
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Joined: Jun 21, 2010 Posts: 1425
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Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!
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No.
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| This 206 IS going on a trackday despite it's every effort to stay at home in the garage! | |
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:06 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 10151
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not sure if the gti engine is bullet proof.
just this yr 3 of my frd has blown up their engine
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:14 pm |
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Joined: Jun 15, 2011 Posts: 100
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Location: Wales
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Well ive owned mine a while now and ive driven it 120mph and the engine doesn't seem to struggle, how did your friends 'blow' exactly ? I think i get cambelt changed before i do anything serious !!
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:29 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 10151
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Linkpad wrote: |
Well ive owned mine a while now and ive driven it 120mph and the engine doesn't seem to struggle, how did your friends 'blow' exactly ? I think i get cambelt changed before i do anything serious !! |
www.206info.co.uk/Foru...46644.html
not cambelt issue
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:36 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 7093
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Location: Suffolk
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Seabook, thoose engines are f*****g beautiful
Some of the best explosions ive seen in a long time..... (side note, ignition timing and high compression is my 2p)
To the OP, ive spent well over 5k on a 1.4 GLX, will i ever get that back no
But i enjoy it
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:38 pm |
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Joined: Jun 15, 2011 Posts: 100
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Location: Wales
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ah spark plug issue good job i ordered bosch ones thanks seabrook !!
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:42 pm |
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Addaz wrote: |
Seabook, thoose engines are f*****g beautiful
Some of the best explosions ive seen in a long time..... (side note, ignition timing and high compression is my 2p)
To the OP, ive spent well over 5k on a 1.4 GLX, will i ever get that back no
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what do you mean by high compression?
as far as i know they use stock piston
yes, could be ignition timing...as i suspect the tuner wasn't have enough experience to deal with those cams.....
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:46 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 7093
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Location: Suffolk
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Sorry for being short but heres it in a little longer....
With the first engine the spark plug heat range will be a very cool plug as lets face it 11.1 aint to be shunned at, and this will create some serious heat. But when you at more air into an already tight space and slightly altering the timing of the engine with the upgraded camshafts, you are destined for trouble if you havent researched into the correct spark plug
You run a too hot plug it will pre ignite and well you can see whats happened
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| Team Impossible Possible
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
Click to see more
144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
Click to see more
For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:49 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 10151
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Addaz wrote: |
Sorry for being short but heres it in a little longer....
With the first engine the spark plug heat range will be a very cool plug as lets face it 11.1 aint to be shunned at, and this will create some serious heat. But when you at more air into an already tight space and slightly altering the timing of the engine with the upgraded camshafts, you are destined for trouble if you havent researched into the correct spark plug
You run a too hot plug it will pre ignite and well you can see whats happened |
that's more clear
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:50 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 7093
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Location: Suffolk
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Seabook wrote: |
Addaz wrote: |
Sorry for being short but heres it in a little longer....
With the first engine the spark plug heat range will be a very cool plug as lets face it 11.1 aint to be shunned at, and this will create some serious heat. But when you at more air into an already tight space and slightly altering the timing of the engine with the upgraded camshafts, you are destined for trouble if you havent researched into the correct spark plug
You run a too hot plug it will pre ignite and well you can see whats happened |
that's more clear |
Not bad for a 19 year old, who roles with pink sunglasses everywhere
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| Team Impossible Possible
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
Click to see more
144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
Click to see more
For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:31 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 10151
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Addaz wrote: |
Seabook wrote: |
Addaz wrote: |
Sorry for being short but heres it in a little longer....
With the first engine the spark plug heat range will be a very cool plug as lets face it 11.1 aint to be shunned at, and this will create some serious heat. But when you at more air into an already tight space and slightly altering the timing of the engine with the upgraded camshafts, you are destined for trouble if you havent researched into the correct spark plug
You run a too hot plug it will pre ignite and well you can see whats happened |
that's more clear |
Not bad for a 19 year old, who roles with pink sunglasses everywhere | ]]pink sunglassess... i remember mattie got loads of them
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:54 pm |
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Joined: Jun 04, 2010 Posts: 1691
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Location: northallerton
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i have spend a few k on the engine and only seen 13bhp but for that money and a bit more you could get throttle bodies giving about 180 bhp, if you do your research and pick the mods right it can be worthwhile unless you want looks go and bodykit all at once it will cost a fortune
few subtle mods will cost about 1 k and keep you happy with the car for a few more years
as for millage and age well i got the same age and 72k miles and i go on the track yearly without any problems, i have seen cars over 130k miles on the origional headgaskett so plenty of life as yet
also second hand parts are alot cheaper now
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