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 Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:33 am |
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Hi all, I have just bought a new coil pack (Valeo) as the car was running with a Sagem pack but I noticed when taking off the old one that the connector (to the car)has four connectors but there are only 3 with metalic bits inside them, is this correct as there are four metal pins on the coil pack?
Thanks for your help.
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:36 am |
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| Username wrote: |
Hi all, I have just bought a new coil pack (Valeo) as the car was running with a Sagem pack but I noticed when taking off the old one that the connector (to the car)has four connectors but there are only 3 with metalic bits inside them, is this correct as there are four metal pins on the coil pack?
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just wondering why you went valeo and not sagem? i need a new one for my old car(new coil pack) so can sell it?
where did you get yours and how much did you pay?
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:44 am |
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The original Sagem ones are pressumably s**t & I bought my new coil pack at: www.carparts4less.co.uk/ for £68:34 (with the code save5 added).
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:06 am |
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3 pins are normal.
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:12 am |
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So do the plugs fire in pairs on the GTi's?
Also, how many wires going to the connector?
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:16 am |
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| Username wrote: |
| The original Sagem ones are pressumably s**t & I bought my new coil pack at: www.carparts4less.co.uk/ for £68:34 (with the code save5 added). |
cheers
did you change yours just to change it or were you having problems?
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:18 am |
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So do the plugs fire in pairs on the GTi's?
Also, how many wires going to the connector? |
It will be a wasted spark system, most modern petrol engines will run wasted spark.
Helps keep the spark plugs clean to 
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:28 am |
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| MrBSI wrote: |
| V9977 wrote: |
So do the plugs fire in pairs on the GTi's?
Also, how many wires going to the connector? |
It will be a wasted spark system, most modern petrol engines will run wasted spark.
Helps keep the spark plugs clean to |
Yeh I thought the TU3 has 1 pair and the other two independant hence four wires (one earth).
However in this case it would have to be two pairs with three wires no?
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:41 am |
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| Edward wrote: |
| 3 pins are normal. |
Thanks Edward, very much appreciated.
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:53 am |
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However in this case it would have to be two pairs with three wires no? |
Thats how most modern coil packs work, they fire in pairs.
One cylinder will be on the compression stroke while the other cylinder on the same coil is on the exhaust stroke.
The TU coil is basically 2 individual coils moulded in to one big unit for better packaging.
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:48 pm |
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Many years ago I had a Citroen Pony. Essentially a 2CV with a Greek-made shell/interior.
Air-cooled, it had only 2 cylinders with both plugs firing together, so no-distributor either.
Just a platinum contact driving the HT coil firing plugs in wasted spark as you said.
Sometimes it would even go into hit & miss mode, in ultra high ambient temps.
It was the most underpowered car I have ever known..
Reliable as hell though and I miss it.
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