New Here?
Toggle Content
   

Toggle Content User Info
Welcome

Anonymous

Nickname
Password
Register

Membership:
Latest: DanDan17
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 1
Overall: 17128

Online Now [68]:
Visitors: 67
Bots: 1
Members: 0
Staff Online Now:

No staff members are online!
Page Views:
Today: 5791
Total: 100433517

Toggle Content Main Menu
 General Info Goodies Search Web Stats Members
 Donations

 

Forums › The Car › 206 Problems › Shaking/judder at 40-50mph...


 
 

Shaking/judder at 40-50mph...
Forum Index206 Problems
Reply to topic Printer Friendly Page watchs.gif View Previous Topic View Next Topic
Author
Message
josho
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:01 am Up
Getting to like it here


Offline

Joined: Oct 12, 2012
Posts: 10
Trade Rating: 0


Hi there, just recently purchased an X plate HDi 2.0 with 98k. Just recently noticed sometimes the car will judder/shake quite bad at 40-50mph in 5th gear. Quite bad at times. Tried searching the forums for a few ideas on what it could be and I've put it down to maybe unbalanced wheels, wheel bearings, engine mounts, clutch judder? Although clutch feels and operates fine. Any ideas people?
View user's profile
Steve206
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:14 am Up
Paid up Member of the Info Exchange


Offline

Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 2718
Trade Rating: +6
Location: UK


More than likely wheels out of balance, but i would check all suspension components.
Work in Progress
View user's profile
DanT
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:56 am Up
Dedicated Member


Offline

Joined: Jun 28, 2012
Posts: 540
Trade Rating: +2
Location: Torbay, England


As you mentioned, wheel balancing would be the first thing to check.
Is it only in 5th? Or does it still shake at 40-50 in say 4th gear?

My 2004 Aegean Blue GTi 180 Progress Thread
View user's profile
iSamTz
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:30 pm Up
Full on 206 Owner


Offline

Joined: Oct 03, 2012
Posts: 183
Trade Rating: -1


Could also be suspension?, friend has a similar problem, was in 3rd 4th and 5th doing the same sort of speed... the suspension was knackered.

Sam

WARNING: This User Has Had Bad Trade Feedback In The Past

206 1.4 2002 - Project Car
BMW 116 2012 - Work car
Yamaha R1 - Race bike (snetterton, Cadwell)
View user's profile Visit poster's website
kandlbarrett
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:00 pm Up
206 Crazy


Offline

Joined: Aug 04, 2011
Posts: 1343
Trade Rating: 0
Location: Swindon


Don't know the diesels that well but is 40 - 50mph too slow for 5th gear? Is it just the engine juddering due to revs to low or too much throttle applied at that rpm?

If it is wheel balance it will always do it at the same speed. Not just sometimes.

Morris 1000, Austin 1100, Escort Mk2, Fiat Mirafiori, Alfa 33, Alfa GT Junior, Alfasud, Alfetta GTV (2x), Alfa 164 3.0 V6, Alfa 164 2.0, Alfa 75 V6, Alfa 156 2.4 (diesel remapped 200bhp), Alfa 147 GTA (3.6 295bhp), Alfa 159 (diesel remapped 245bhp 300ft.lbs @ 2500rpm)
Why isn't my daughter an Alfaholic?
View user's profile
Seabook
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:02 pm Up
Custom - Green Stars


Offline

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 10151
Trade Rating: +12


50 is alright; 40 will be struggled
 
 

 

Car Sold....
View user's profile
josho
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:15 pm Up
Getting to like it here


Offline

Joined: Oct 12, 2012
Posts: 10
Trade Rating: 0


Still havent had chance to diagnose this shaking, but my mechanic friend has been in it several times and mentioned that it may be a driveshaft having play? It seems to be getting worse, it starting to shake on the motorways at 70mph. Could this be true? And if so, big job?
View user's profile
Sim
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:21 am Up
206 Crazy


Offline

Joined: Jun 20, 2012
Posts: 1171
Trade Rating: +1
Location: West Country


I had shaking at high speed braking due to buckled wheel hub->wheel wobble (search on this forum)

If driveshaft plays, new one costs £~80. If you can replace brake disks yourself (have tools), should be no problem to DIY shaft replacement altogether.
Otherwise labour should not be too much higher than disk replacement.

But if play comes from within tranny, things might look gloomier.

2.0 HDi, year 2000 (E's restin')
Red GTi 180, year 2004 (VorTechS' sEXy Beast (being) remasteRed)
Blue GTi 180, year 2004 (in hibernation after endless driving fun in 2019, queued for "cambelt in tight spaces")
Missus' 1.6 16v CC, year 2007 (L-plates to P-plates to NO-plates, but now she wants powwer:))
£50 1.4 HDi, year 2002 (seatless transporter, SORNed, rust needs patching)
EV
Jag S(crapped)- & X-Type
GTC VXR (sold)
View user's profile
bezford
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:37 am Up
Dedicated Member


Offline

Joined: Apr 19, 2012
Posts: 529
Trade Rating: 0
Location: darlington


Check wheels for dents and balancing...
Check tyres for eggs n blebs...
Are discs warped?..
Try these first

R.HYDE
View user's profile
josho
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:27 am Up
Getting to like it here


Offline

Joined: Oct 12, 2012
Posts: 10
Trade Rating: 0


Right checked all those things and everything ok. So does this point to a driveshaft? Or maybe engine mounts? I don't have the facilities eg. ramp to check these. Need it sorting soon, its beginning to bug me and dont fancy it breaking haha!
View user's profile
sheerness
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:39 am Up
Really Loves it Here


Offline

Joined: Dec 15, 2012
Posts: 58
Trade Rating: 0


hi there

I have the same issue with my W-Reg, firstly I was told it was a gearbox issue, so I have that replaced, the car come back and the problem is still there, now they tell me its a drive shaft issue, awaiting a part, I think you have the same issue as mine so it a drivshaft issue,

Hope this helps

Dom......

View user's profile
josho
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:54 pm Up
Getting to like it here


Offline

Joined: Oct 12, 2012
Posts: 10
Trade Rating: 0


I dont think it will be gearbox as it seems to operate fine, although it does whine when im downshifting and letting it coast but once clutch is in the whine goes. Maybe this is driveshaft issue or maybe a whiney diff. Let me know if yours is a driveshaft mate it may point me in the right direction Smile
View user's profile
sheerness
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:17 pm Up
Really Loves it Here


Offline

Joined: Dec 15, 2012
Posts: 58
Trade Rating: 0


will do.
I have yet another order of another driveshaft (keep Getting the wrong ones grrrr)
hopefully get it fitted sometime next week,
Will keep you posted.

Dom.....

View user's profile
josho
PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:59 pm Up
Getting to like it here


Offline

Joined: Oct 12, 2012
Posts: 10
Trade Rating: 0


Ok well just thought Id shed a bit of light on this situation in case anybody else is experiencing the same.

I eventually discovered it was in fact the nearside rear wheel wobbling at speed, which was caused by knackered rear axle bearings! There was a lot of movement in the rear arm, so priced up a bearing kit and got the new bearings fitted by my self. It was actually fairly straight forward to do, got the car on axle stands and had a crack. Was expecting it to be a pain in the backside. I watched a 3 part video of a guy on youtube and found that to be a great guy. Very glad I didnt go down the whole replacing the axle route. The other side seems fine for the minute. It was also good to see there was little wear on the stub axle. Very pleased with the result, feels like a whole different car!

View user's profile
Reply to topic Printer Friendly Page watchs.gif View Previous Topic View Next Topic All times are GMT
Forum Index206 Problems

Page 1 of 1
  You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum

 
We are not responsible for comments posted by our users, as they are the property of the poster
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy