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Forums › The Car › 206 Problems › 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on |
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:39 pm |
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Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Posts: 162
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Location: york
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what i do find strange though is a set bunch of people that all they have to offer is more of a laugh in your face attitude and less of an actual helpful post, then there is the others that just repeat what the others say with out any factual information, just hearsay! i apprieciate the help of some of you guys that want to help but, considering the known faults with this so called engine i have yet to see any real posts about how and where and at what prices the things are that will make the engine reliable. I am on a bmw site and can tell you where you can find any part at good prices and what you need to do to most e46s to make sure you go for ever. but on here i havn't had 1 post that points me in any proper direction. i guess most are just 'its what i have heard' people.
i Dowonder is they guy that invented this site was after helping fellow 206 owners or wheather he wanted members to put other owners off the brand? i wonder.
ps, i'm not p**sed off! its just a general thought. on another note though the peugeot forums seem to offer infomative help.
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:00 am |
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Joined: Jan 05, 2011 Posts: 483
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Location: Wiltshire
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just read the tons of posts after mine,
i went to see my friend yesterday to get my headlights realigned just to make sure my hid's wernt causing to much dazzle (but that is a different issue).
while there i asked about the possibility of a dpf removal, i was told that
A, until it actually needs work, to not worry about it.
B, as people have said, as it was factory fitted with a dpf, it would need to have a dpf looking pipe there.
so after talking for a while, we came up with a better solution, when it goes, smash out the dpf, but wield in a solid through pipe, so it will basically be a straight throught exhaust but it will look like it has a dpf, the rest of the system would have to remain, but never be used as the bsi would be updated accordingly
mapping it out (re-mapping, removing form the bsi), would actually give the car close to 140bhp, which added to the torque of the diesel should easily nail a petrol GTi.
as for the debate on the 2.0 HDi vs. 1.6 HDi, i have owned both and driven both, the 2.0 is alot slower in comparison there is no power till high in the rev range, by which point you negate the point of having a diesel. wheras the 1.6 has power from the get go, it just drives is effortless and actually a joy to drive. yes they do both have there faults, but on balance i would still rather have the 1.6.
sorry to op for not actually giving a straight respose in what he asked for,
my friend can do all the work bar the pug planet/remap for about £50-£100.
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:38 am |
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Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Posts: 162
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Location: york
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vauxfan wrote: |
what i do find strange though is a set bunch of people that all they have to offer is more of a laugh in your face attitude and less of an actual helpful post, then there is the others that just repeat what the others say with out any factual information, just hearsay! i apprieciate the help of some of you guys that want to help but, considering the known faults with this so called engine i have yet to see any real posts about how and where and at what prices the things are that will make the engine reliable. I am on a bmw site and can tell you where you can find any part at good prices and what you need to do to most e46s to make sure you go for ever. but on here i havn't had 1 post that points me in any proper direction. i guess most are just 'its what i have heard' people.
i Dowonder is they guy that invented this site was after helping fellow 206 owners or wheather he wanted members to put other owners off the brand? i wonder.
ps, i'm not p**sed off! its just a general thought. on another note though the peugeot forums seem to offer infomative help. |
thanks mate, that is the sort of response that seems realistic. i have also just been to peugeot main dealers today and as them about swapping out the flywheel for a solid type, they said it was a good idea and told me to get a price from motor factors. valeo 4p is the kit i want. the dpf is also recomended by THEM to be removed but said to get a reputable company to forget about anything relating to the dpf. i think for now i will get a solid fly, and when the car starts to make a noise i will replace it! then once that is done the dpf can be smashed out and written out, then on with the remap. as you said the car will make good power after that. ps they also told me to go down the motorway in 4th at 70mph for 15mins to clean it out.
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:19 am |
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Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Posts: 162
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Location: york
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Well let this be the first bit of real info. valeo do not do a solid fly wheel for the 2005 206 hdi. apparently there isn' t a demand for it..
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:38 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Posts: 11519
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Location: What's it to you? ? ?
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vauxfan wrote: |
valeo do not do a solid fly wheel for the 2005 206 hdi. apparently there isn' t a demand for it.. |
There is a good reason there isnt a demand for it
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:42 am |
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Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Posts: 162
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Location: york
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Yes its a newer designed fly wheel. early 1s have 1 though?
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:38 pm |
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Joined: Apr 11, 2013 Posts: 38
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Well ive just joined this site in the hope !!!!! of joining a community which helps one another. This does seem apparently possible as long as its a 2.0 hdi or petrol 206 you drive if dare i say you have a 1.6 hdi seems you become the the brunt for everyone to take the p**s (excuse my language). Is this really how this forum works !!!!!! What does it matter which engine you have surely its about sharing experiences and helping each other out. Obviously wont be somewhere i visit often. Oh and just before the comments come please note previous car was a 206 2.0 hdi mapped to 130 bhp and yes bullet proof except the clutch when mapped just cheaper to replace. But yet i still decided to buy the 1.6 hdi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:42 pm |
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Joined: Apr 11, 2013 Posts: 38
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Typo there 120 bhp
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:55 pm |
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Joined: Feb 24, 2010 Posts: 2596
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Location: North West Wales
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The reason we take the p**s is because 9 times out of 10 people come on here for advice on which hdi to buy, and we tell them which is bullet proof and why the 1.6 should be avoided, but then they ignore us which then within a short time the problems we spoke of come to light.
I think the record so far is about 3 days from buying the car to antipolution fault.
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:30 am |
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Joined: Oct 05, 2012 Posts: 367
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I too have had the abuse even when I was warned about the car and then I went and bought one and 3 days later my DPF f****d up. But there are a handful of people who do help without abuse.
I had the whole thing removed for £450 including the software at a place in Essex. No problems regarding the DPF.
I did however have the anti pollution light come on this week, but that's been sorted by diagnosing a faulty fuel cap sensor.
No one talks about this engine being used in the Ford Focus, Ford Fiesta, Citroen C4 & C5...etc go on wikipedia if you want to see how many other motors use this engine.
I wouldn't recommend removing the DPF youself - the toxic fumes will not do you any good at all.
LeeThr - I wouldn't have bought my car if the owner had come clean about it in the beginning. The rest of the car was fine and has been fine since it was removed.
Yes Micka - this is not a community that helps you, only bullies and takes the p**s - you go on most other forums and they are most willing to help you out. There is no community here unless its for the 2.0 HDI
Maybe you should rename this forum to "The Peugeot 206 2.0 HDI Exchange" - you won't have much to talk about as they are quality engines and nothing goes wrong with them at all!!!
P.S. I had another problem yesterday. My doors locked while I was inside the car. Yes it was unlocked on the fob and even on the button in the car.
If I was in an accident and I couldn't get out in a hurry then I imagine I would be killed. That has never happened to me in any other car i've owned and it happened regardless if it was a 2.0 or a 1.6 - f*****g dangerous electrical issues.
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:37 am |
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Joined: Oct 05, 2012 Posts: 367
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vauxfan wrote: |
Yes its a newer designed fly wheel. early 1s have 1 though? |
I've read somewhere that you can use the solid 207 flywheel on the 206- but there were no photos.
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:24 am |
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Joined: Jan 05, 2011 Posts: 483
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Location: Wiltshire
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im in your camp (not literally, more figrativly), as i have a hdi gti, it been sat in my mates garage for 6 months, yes people take the p**s all you like, you caan read my thread reguarding the problems i have had reguarding the dpf removal, and subsiquent issues.
an update, got a recon turbo after mine died at approx 114k miles, this second turbo did just 2500 miles before the shaft snapped, and its due to thhe legal battle im in with the company my car has been sat for so long. i have sourced a turbo from a breaker (51k on the clock, yes i know not the best idea but i need to get the car shifted from my mates so i can try and sort the other problems), then i will begin working on it again, hopefully sorting some of the problems out.
dont let the f**ktards get you down, as long as your happy with your car then to hell with them. if you have read this thread fully you will see i have owned both a 2.0l hdi and now the 1.6l hdi gti, and for what its worth even through all the problems im having, id still pick the 1.6 over the 2.0 it suits my driving style more (well it does when it drives).
as for other cars the dv6 is in you forgot to mention bmw, both mini, 1 and 3 series use them, as do nissan, as do volvo. this engine is however known for high carbon production, which is what ultimatly kills them. the turbo if treated right is actually a solid unit, the dpf well thats a different story.
ok i have talked enought.
206HdiGti wrote: |
P.S. I had another problem yesterday. My doors locked while I was inside the car. Yes it was unlocked on the fob and even on the button in the car.
If I was in an accident and I couldn't get out in a hurry then I imagine I would be killed. That has never happened to me in any other car i've owned and it happened regardless if it was a 2.0 or a 1.6 - f*****g dangerous electrical issues. |
this is caused by the auto locking feature (auto deadlocking) being active, basically it locks the doors on driving past 5mph, in the event of a crash/rollover the locking releases (never crashed or rolled mine so i dont know if that bits true), it can be de-activated by
1, turning the ignition to position 1
2, pressing and holding the interior lock button (next the the hazzard button) for 5 secs (you will hear a bong and the mfd will show auto deadlocking de-activated, i think)
3, to re-activate follow steps 1 and 2 again (mfd will display auto-deadlocking activated).
its a hand feature, i have it set to on as i like to know some dip-s**t cant car-jack me,
p.s i you ever want a sensible chat or some halp with your hdi gti, pm me.
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