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 Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:56 pm |
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I think to make this swap work your going to have to strip the saxo of all it's looms, dials, etc and install them in the 206. The multiplexed system is not going to work with your non plexed saxo engine. It may be better to rethink this altogether unless you have the time. I hope you do get it sorted though.
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:04 pm |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010
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Why don't people do research before fiddling with things they obviously know sod all about.
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:17 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: Athens, Greece
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From the pics I would say this is a wildly different setup. I don't know much about engine swaps myself, but would strongly recommend you get in-touch with an experienced auto-elec on this one. He might well sort you out painlesly in the end.
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:36 pm |
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Joined: Mar 17, 2013
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| ukskater01 wrote: |
| I think to make this swap work your going to have to strip the saxo of all it's looms, dials, etc and install them in the 206. The multiplexed system is not going to work with your non plexed saxo engine. It may be better to rethink this altogether unless you have the time. I hope you do get it sorted though. |
the only big issue i have is the ecu as from swapping sensors around and a few other things ive managed to get the 1.1 loom to fit the vtr engine but there are also a few plugs that the 1.1 loom doesnt have that the vtr does :/ its all gone tits up with this swap might just sack it off all together and pick up a 1.8 or 2.0 from a guy i know! :L
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:32 am |
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www.autodiagnos.com/si...mplete.pdf
Have a look at this even if you sorted the engine ECU you would still have problems, your better off getting a 1.6 16v from a 206, not a saxo
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:09 am |
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Is it an 8 valve Saxo engine? Why not just throw it in the car running on all the original engine sensors????
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:15 am |
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I don't think there ever was a 8 valve multiplexed 1.6 fitted to the 206.
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:34 am |
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Nightmare situation this...scrap both cars and buy a cheap gti...sorted.
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:03 am |
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Joined: Feb 24, 2010
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| eddie206 wrote: |
| Nightmare situation this...scrap both cars and buy a cheap gti...sorted. |
He's probably doing this because he cant insure a GTi so wants to pop the 1.6 8v lump in and not say anything to them and keep it 1.1 insurance
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:05 am |
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| LeeThr wrote: |
| eddie206 wrote: |
| Nightmare situation this...scrap both cars and buy a cheap gti...sorted. |
He's probably doing this because he cant insure a GTi so wants to pop the 1.6 8v lump in and not say anything to them and keep it 1.1 insurance |
Well that's a nightmare situation waiting to happen! When you crash, get no pay out and no money for a new car.....
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:07 am |
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Location: Athens, Greece
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| Tolkienfan001 wrote: |
| LeeThr wrote: |
| eddie206 wrote: |
| Nightmare situation this...scrap both cars and buy a cheap gti...sorted. |
He's probably doing this because he cant insure a GTi so wants to pop the 1.6 8v lump in and not say anything to them and keep it 1.1 insurance |
Well that's a nightmare situation waiting to happen! When you crash, get no pay out and no money for a new car..... |
What happens about possible medical costs to other party involved? (touch-wood)
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:11 am |
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| V9977 wrote: |
| Tolkienfan001 wrote: |
| LeeThr wrote: |
| eddie206 wrote: |
| Nightmare situation this...scrap both cars and buy a cheap gti...sorted. |
He's probably doing this because he cant insure a GTi so wants to pop the 1.6 8v lump in and not say anything to them and keep it 1.1 insurance |
Well that's a nightmare situation waiting to happen! When you crash, get no pay out and no money for a new car..... |
What happens about possible medical costs to other party involved? (touch-wood) |
Would be the same as being in an incident with an uninsured driver.
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:25 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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| LeeThr wrote: |
| V9977 wrote: |
| Tolkienfan001 wrote: |
| LeeThr wrote: |
| eddie206 wrote: |
| Nightmare situation this...scrap both cars and buy a cheap gti...sorted. |
He's probably doing this because he cant insure a GTi so wants to pop the 1.6 8v lump in and not say anything to them and keep it 1.1 insurance |
Well that's a nightmare situation waiting to happen! When you crash, get no pay out and no money for a new car..... |
What happens about possible medical costs to other party involved? (touch-wood) |
Would be the same as being in an incident with an uninsured driver. |
Which means what over there?
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| 1.4i, 2001, 3-door, China Blue
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:37 am |
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Joined: Jan 29, 2011
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Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire
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| V9977 wrote: |
| LeeThr wrote: |
| V9977 wrote: |
| Tolkienfan001 wrote: |
| LeeThr wrote: |
| eddie206 wrote: |
| Nightmare situation this...scrap both cars and buy a cheap gti...sorted. |
He's probably doing this because he cant insure a GTi so wants to pop the 1.6 8v lump in and not say anything to them and keep it 1.1 insurance |
Well that's a nightmare situation waiting to happen! When you crash, get no pay out and no money for a new car..... |
What happens about possible medical costs to other party involved? (touch-wood) |
Would be the same as being in an incident with an uninsured driver. |
Which means what over there? |
NHS pay just like they would in an insured accident, so in the long run, the rest of us pay for it in National Insurance contributions.
I've never heard of an insurance company reimbursing the NHS for treatment given at the scene or the aftercare. The ambulance service used to charge for attending, which could be claimed back through the insurance, but not even sure if they still charge or not.
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:15 pm |
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Joined: Mar 17, 2013
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Sacked the vtr build off now, too much hassle im working 50 hour weeks as it is so i dont have the time to do this if i do an engine swap next time ill just get and engine straight from a multiplex 206! :L cheers for the help guys!
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